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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 7:38 pm 
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Alex,
I have just received an e.mail outlining a course of action to claw back the huge cost of fuel.
Briefly we need to attack one fuel supplier by not using them.Suppose we agreed that the one not to use would be Shell/BP how long would it be before they were forced into reducing accordingly thus forcing the others to follow suit?
If you think the idea has merit would send the idea on through the forum list and ask that everybody would then let another 10 people know. Who knows how many would join within the month.
We would obviously need to agree a figure to be reached before the boycott would be lifted, I would like to think that 75 per litre is the least we should aim for. Let's eat into the profits of these people.
If you think that this goes against the ethics and aims of the forum I will understand.
Ged

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 7:46 pm 
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Ged, I don't see that as a problem for the site.

Feel free to post whatever you like on the site, and we can link that topic to any flyer/up-date that we send out in future.

I would rather do it that way than just a single general e-mail, because if we send out too much, all our stuff will just be sent to a junk bin (that's of course if it doesn't already :shock: ).

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 9:08 pm 
this sounds like a great idea the ampunt of fuel we go through should entitle us to some sort of discount, this would mean very little to the fuel companies but a great deal to us.....


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 Post subject: Re: Fuel boycott
PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 1:23 am 
gedmay wrote:
Alex,
I have just received an e.mail outlining a course of action to claw back the huge cost of fuel.
Briefly we need to attack one fuel supplier by not using them.Suppose we agreed that the one not to use would be Shell/BP how long would it be before they were forced into reducing accordingly thus forcing the others to follow suit?
If you think the idea has merit would send the idea on through the forum list and ask that everybody would then let another 10 people know. Who knows how many would join within the month.
We would obviously need to agree a figure to be reached before the boycott would be lifted, I would like to think that 75 per litre is the least we should aim for. Let's eat into the profits of these people.
If you think that this goes against the ethics and aims of the forum I will understand.
Ged


the profit on fuel is less than 2p per litre.
this is an international crisis not local greed.
soon people will look back in fondness at 90p per litre.

Geoff MIE


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 7:26 pm 
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Geoff,
I want to look forward to at least 75p per litre. There 2p per litre is small beer on the face of it but they are posting huge profits year on year so that means an awful lot of 2p's.
A decrease in the price of oil usually takes 4 to 5 weeks to filter through but magically increases are almost instantaneous. Let us not forget that our annual ( if granted) fare increases are 12 months behind so we are constantly playing catch up. This creeping rise will cause us all a lot of problems and once again we are the ones left on the outside looking in. The airlines,trains, buses etc will all be passing on the extra costings to the passengers, we won't.
I absolutely detested Enoch Powells views on Race issues but I was reading through an old economic paper of his the other month and would you believe that he was advocating petrol at £1 per gallon to remove peoples dependancy on the car and thus our dependancy on the fluctuation in oil prices. Admittedly this was early 70's but there is nothing new under the sun.
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gedmay wrote:
Geoff,
I want to look forward to at least 75p per litre. There 2p per litre is small beer on the face of it but they are posting huge profits year on year so that means an awful lot of 2p's.
A decrease in the price of oil usually takes 4 to 5 weeks to filter through but magically increases are almost instantaneous. Let us not forget that our annual ( if granted) fare increases are 12 months behind so we are constantly playing catch up. This creeping rise will cause us all a lot of problems and once again we are the ones left on the outside looking in. The airlines,trains, buses etc will all be passing on the extra costings to the passengers, we won't.
I absolutely detested Enoch Powells views on Race issues but I was reading through an old economic paper of his the other month and would you believe that he was advocating petrol at £1 per gallon to remove peoples dependancy on the car and thus our dependancy on the fluctuation in oil prices. Admittedly this was early 70's but there is nothing new under the sun.
Ged


the profits posted are on the refinery of oil, not retailing
if you close down retailing you are actually upping the cost at other retailing.

calculate the % of profit for bp, and calculate the litre discount, it will be hellish low, amd compare with our profits and what shell would make if they ran taxis.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 1:43 am 
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gedmay wrote:
Geoff,
I want to look forward to at least 75p per litre. There 2p per litre is small beer on the face of it but they are posting huge profits year on year so that means an awful lot of 2p's.
A decrease in the price of oil usually takes 4 to 5 weeks to filter through but magically increases are almost instantaneous. Let us not forget that our annual ( if granted) fare increases are 12 months behind so we are constantly playing catch up. This creeping rise will cause us all a lot of problems and once again we are the ones left on the outside looking in. The airlines,trains, buses etc will all be passing on the extra costings to the passengers, we won't.
I absolutely detested Enoch Powells views on Race issues but I was reading through an old economic paper of his the other month and would you believe that he was advocating petrol at £1 per gallon to remove peoples dependancy on the car and thus our dependancy on the fluctuation in oil prices. Admittedly this was early 70's but there is nothing new under the sun.
Ged


the profits posted are on the refinery of oil, not retailing
if you close down retailing you are actually upping the cost at other retailing.

calculate the % of profit for bp, and calculate the litre discount, it will be hellish low, amd compare with our profits and what shell would make if they ran taxis.



I have just been reading the BBC website.
oil has dipped on the international markets today, Saudi Arabia is pushing to increase production by 2 million barrels a day, and OPEC are making noises about letting them.

if this was to happen we will be in the 78p zone then up to 80p when the chancellor sticks his 2 pence on.

lets keep our fingures crossed we might be OK

Geoff


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 1:58 am 
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I would personally like to use an AK47 on any fuel or wind-farm protesters.

If you want to upset the oil companies and/or the Government, then set up your own Biodiesel business. Be forward thinking, as the oil-party is almost over and we have to adapt or suffer.

Increasing production will merely make the effects of peak oil (when production cannot meet demand) earlier and more damaging. The latest ASPO conference reports that peak oil may occur as soon as 2008.

PS: If you're going to boycott anyone, then don't buy from Esso ;)

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