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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:54 pm 
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Are taxis from other areas allowed in the bus lanes in Manchester????


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im reliably informed that bus+taxi lanes anywhere are for that areas vehicles, the cost to test this could be a lot...

seems odd when a coach from anywhere cab use em but not a taxi


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wannabeeahack wrote:
im reliably informed that bus+taxi lanes anywhere are for that areas vehicles, the cost to test this could be a lot...

seems odd when a coach from anywhere cab use em but not a taxi


If the signage says taxis or taxis only without any reference to that place it would mean taxis from anywhere like in Edinburgh

I am trying to find out as I have just received an increased fine for my old cab using a bus lane in Manchester, even though I have sent the reply back saying I part exchanged it in July and it was meant to have happened in October


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skippy41 wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
im reliably informed that bus+taxi lanes anywhere are for that areas vehicles, the cost to test this could be a lot...

seems odd when a coach from anywhere cab use em but not a taxi


If the signage says taxis or taxis only without any reference to that place it would mean taxis from anywhere like in Edinburgh

I am trying to find out as I have just received an increased fine for my old cab using a bus lane in Manchester, even though I have sent the reply back saying I part exchanged it in July and it was meant to have happened in October


I take it the new owner has not sent in the registration document.

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I take it the new owner has not sent in the registration document.


It looks like it Grandpa :sad:


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I take it the new owner has not sent in the registration document.


It looks like it Grandpa :sad:


Actually it is the seller's responsibility to inform DVLA of the change. :shock:

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Three part registration document V5
If you have a three part registration document you must complete the V5 blue section, both you and the buyer must sign it and send it immediately to DVLA, Swansea, SA99 1BA. You are also required to give the buyer the properly completed V5/2 green section. However, if you sell the vehicle to a 'motor trader' (see notes on back of registration document for definition) you must complete the V5/3 red section, obtain the details and signature of the motor trader and post it to DVLA, Swansea, SA99 1BD. Both the V5 and V5/2 (blue and green) sections (uncompleted) should then be passed to the trader.


http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/Bu ... DG_4022311

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wannabeeahack wrote:
im reliably informed that bus+taxi lanes anywhere are for that areas vehicles,

That's not the case.

A bus lane with a 'taxis only' sign is for all taxis licensed under the 1847 act.

A bus lane with a 'local taxis only' sign is for all taxis licensed by the area the lane is in. I'm not sure there is a bus lane in the country that has a sign saying 'local taxis only'.

An extra to that is that most councils have a definition of taxis to mean taxis licensed under the 1847 act and PH licensed under the 1976 act.

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A bus lane with a 'taxis only' sign is for all taxis licensed under the 1847 act.


Or the 1982 CGSA?

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A bus lane with a 'taxis only' sign is for all taxis licensed under the 1847 act.


Or the 1982 CGSA?

TBH I'm not sure if that would be ok down here and vice-versa. But if it isn't clearly it should be.

Still no-one objected when I drove my Sussex PH in an Edinburgh bus lane. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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From the CGSA 1982

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Journeys in England and Wales by vehicles and drivers licensed under this Act

16 In Section 75 of the Local Government (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1976
(saving for certain vehicles from requirements of Part II of that Act as to private hire vehicles), after subsection (2) there shall be inserted:-
“(2A) Where a vehicle is being used as a taxi or private hire car, paragraphs (a), (b) and (c) of section 46(1) of this Act shall not apply to the use or driving of the vehicle or the employment of a person to drive it if -
(a) a licence issued under section 10 of the Civic Government (Scotland)
Act 1982 for its use as a taxi or, as the case may be, private hire car is
then in force and,
(b) the driver holds a licence issued under section 13 of that Act for the
driving of taxis or, as the case may be, private hire cars.

In this subsection, ‘private hire car’ and ‘taxi’ have the same meaning as in sections 10 to 22 of the Civic Government (Scotland) Act 1982”.


also

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Offences

21(1) If any person -

(a) operates, or permits the operation of, a taxi within an area in respect of which its operation requires to be but is not licensed or the driver
requires to be but is not licensed; or
(b) picks up passengers in, or permits passengers to be picked up by, a
private hire car within an area in respect of which its operation requires
to be but is not licensed or the driver requires to be but is not licensed, that person shall be guilty of an offence and liable, on summary conviction, to a fine not exceeding £2,500.
(2) Subsection (1) above does not apply to the operation of a taxi or private hire car within an area in respect of which its operation or its driver is not licensed if the request for its hiring was received by its driver (otherwise than in a public place from the person to be conveyed in it, or a person acting on his behalf, for a journey beginning there and then) whilst -
(a) in the area or in that part thereof in respect of which its operation and
its driver are licensed;
(b) engaged on hire on a journey which began in that area or part or will
end there; or
(c) returning to that area or part immediately following completion of a
journey on hire.
(3) Subsection (1)(b) above does not apply to the operation of a vehicle within an area in respect of which its operation or its driver is not licensed if there are in force -
(i) in respect of the vehicle, a licence under section 37 of the Town Police
Clauses Act 1847 (licensing of hackney carriages) or section 48 of the
Local Government (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1976 (licensing of private hire vehicles); and
(ii) in respect of its driver, a licence under section 46 of the said Act of
1847 (licensing of hackney carriage drivers) or, as the case may be,
section 51 of the said Act of 1976 (licensing of drivers of private hire
vehicles).
(3A) Subsection (1)(b) above does not apply to the operation of a vehicle within an area in respect of which its operation or its driver is not licensed if there are in force –
(a) in respect of the vehicle, a licence under section 7 or the Private Hire
Vehicles (London) Act 1998; and
(b) in respect of its driver, a licence under section 13 of that Act.


Not sure if this helps.

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