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I don't mind taking Scottish bank notes.

In fact if anyone has got a few spare bags of them please forward them down to Sussex Mansions. :D



These any good?....just print a few off and enjoy.

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We have the highest standards in the world, we're voted (again in todays Independant) the best taxi service in the world....


Not in the Glasgow Herald though :lol:

A poor show by Heathrow taxis

I HAVE to report shocking behaviour of two taxis at Terminal 5 at Heathrow Airport last week.

We arrived on the 19.50 British Airways flight from Glasgow and proceeded to the attended taxi rank at Terminal 5. We were directed by the attendant to a taxi for the short trip to the Thistle Hotel, Bath Road, Longford. The driver refused to take us as we were going to pay in Scottish bank notes. He claimed they were not legal tender. We tried to insist but he refused to take us. We felt quite intimidated and got out.

The attendant summoned another cab. This time the cab driver charged £16 for the short trip. I paid with a Scottish £20 note. He refused to give me change. He said the note was not legal tender and that he would not accept the correct fare if it included “Scottish” coins. We pointed out that all coins were identical but he then drove off with his door wide open.

This is shocking behaviour at the gateway to London and the 2012 Olympics.

Dr Edward Fitzsimons,

4 Kilmardinny Crescent, Bearsden.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/comment/h ... -1.1119144


Scottish bank notes are not even legal tender in Scotland! :shock:


Only coinage is legal tender :wink:
Even English notes aren't.

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Not in the Glasgow Herald though :lol:

A poor show by Heathrow taxis

I HAVE to report shocking behaviour of two taxis at Terminal 5 at Heathrow Airport last week.

We arrived on the 19.50 British Airways flight from Glasgow and proceeded to the attended taxi rank at Terminal 5. We were directed by the attendant to a taxi for the short trip to the Thistle Hotel, Bath Road, Longford. The driver refused to take us as we were going to pay in Scottish bank notes. He claimed they were not legal tender. We tried to insist but he refused to take us. We felt quite intimidated and got out.

The attendant summoned another cab. This time the cab driver charged £16 for the short trip. I paid with a Scottish £20 note. He refused to give me change. He said the note was not legal tender and that he would not accept the correct fare if it included “Scottish” coins. We pointed out that all coins were identical but he then drove off with his door wide open.

This is shocking behaviour at the gateway to London and the 2012 Olympics.

Dr Edward Fitzsimons,

4 Kilmardinny Crescent, Bearsden.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/comment/h ... -1.1119144




Shocking?

You wonder what planet these people live on if they think a refusal is shocking? Wonder how they would have coped during the war, or would we all be speaking german if they'd been around back then?

£16 is the fare from T5 to bath Rd. There's a £2.40 extras for all journeys starting from Heathrow to recover the £6.50 'gate' money taxi drivers pay to work at the airport.

Clearly the Taxi driver should (if the story is true and not made up by the aggreived Dr) have given him the change.

I take all notes, so do all the cabbies I know. And why wouldn't we? It's all cash.

He mentions 2012 Olympics. If he thinks £16 is a lot, wait until they cone off half of the M4 spur rd with their dedicated millionaire lanes, it'll cost him about £26 then.
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I take your point but consider this, if everyone in the London Taxi Trade thinks like you, then perhaps your privileged existence could come to an end sooner rather than later. :shock:


Privileged?

No, earned.

Hard work and investment goes a long way, even in Edinburgh.
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But I would imagine that most taxi drivers ranking up at Heathrow would see plenty of non-English notes.

However, no doubt we'll be informed otherwise in due course :D


As Grandad points out, I'm from Scotland, and even I have trouble keeping up with which notes are current and which are not.

Then we have the added bonus of having RBS notes, Clydesdale Bank notes and Bank of Scotland notes. Some new, some out of date and no doubt some forged. I can understand why some drivers are reluctant to accept them.

Its not just the taxi trade, you get grief everywhere down here when you produce a Scottish note, I use any I get in the self service tills at tesco, they don't discriminate!

And NO, you don't see lots of Scottish / Northern Ireland notes at the airport. Kings Cross or Euston, then yes.

A ton to go up town? Is this the same urban myth you pedalled to me 8 years ago that I made over £500 a day? Sure ! :-s

Griffen may charge that, but I'll take you to W1 for about £60.
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Scottish bank notes are not even legal tender in Scotland! :shock:


Only coinage is legal tender :wink:
Even English notes aren't.[/quote]

Realy?
http://www.niassembly.gov.uk/io/research/2008/12208.pdf

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Yes really.

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“In short ‘No’ these notes are not legal tender; only Bank of England notes are legal tender but only in England and Wales. The term legal tender does not in itself govern the acceptability of banknotes in transactions. Whether or not notes have legal tender status, their acceptability as a means of payment is essentially a matter for agreement between the parties involved. Legal tender has a very narrow technical meaning in relation to the settlement of debt. If a debtor pays in legal tender the exact amount he owes under the terms of a contract, he has good defence in law if he is subsequently sued for non-payment of the debt. In ordinary everyday transactions, the term ‘legal tender’ has very little practical application.”1


Not legal tender here 8)











Mind you, we take them anyway :lol:

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Talking of the best in the world, this article indicates that the best in the world come out of Gatwick.

http://www.fhr-net.co.uk/travel_news/34 ... k_airport/

And those cabs are defo 100% PH, even if they are perhaps the best fleet and best dressed 'cabbies' in the country. :wink:

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I take your point but consider this, if everyone in the London Taxi Trade thinks like you, then perhaps your privileged existence could come to an end sooner rather than later. :shock:


Privileged?

No, earned.

Hard work and investment goes a long way, even in Edinburgh.


You have got to be delusional to think like that. While I would agree “the Knowledge” in London gives cabbies a status to enjoy and rightly so. It's more of a consequence of working in a Capital Metropolis than by deliberate design. Edinburgh cabbies, on the other hand, have no such status, and if you believe they do. It's certainly not reflected in what they “invest” or their earning potential.

I've spoken to Two cabbies in as many days who have sold up and now work jobs for between £6 and £8 pounds and hour.

The point I am making is, the minute you think your situation is unassailable, that's your first mistake. Then you are recognised not for your position of status and strength but your vulnerabilities.

I believe this is how the Ph sees it in Edinburgh, and they are pounding away relentlessly.

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Sussex wrote:
Talking of the best in the world, this article indicates that the best in the world come out of Gatwick.

http://www.fhr-net.co.uk/travel_news/34 ... k_airport/

And those cabs are defo 100% PH, even if they are perhaps the best fleet and best dressed 'cabbies' in the country. :wink:



They were bang on though a couple of weeks ago when the railway shut with that water pipe at Croydon South.

Gatwick staff were putting punters into London Taxis that were dropping off, so that they could get into London.

The drivers tried their best to fight them off, but a lot couldn't muster the strength and had to take them. :wink:
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I believe this is how the Ph sees it in Edinburgh, and they are pounding away relentlessly.


How exactly is ph in Edinburgh/Scotland any different than ph elsewhere in England/Wales

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I believe this is how the Ph sees it in Edinburgh, and they are pounding away relentlessly.


How exactly is ph in Edinburgh/Scotland any different than ph elsewhere in England/Wales


It might not be, but Edinburgh likes to see itself as a small London because of “the Knowledge.”

It has also gone through a period where the threat of Ph, was simply ignored because of hiked rentals and plate “values.” This was when everything was rosy in the garden.

And now the threat is recognised. They have no idea what to do about it anyway. :-|
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Dusty Bin wrote:
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We have the highest standards in the world, we're voted (again in todays Independant) the best taxi service in the world....


Not in the Glasgow Herald though :lol:

A poor show by Heathrow taxis

I HAVE to report shocking behaviour of two taxis at Terminal 5 at Heathrow Airport last week.

We arrived on the 19.50 British Airways flight from Glasgow and proceeded to the attended taxi rank at Terminal 5. We were directed by the attendant to a taxi for the short trip to the Thistle Hotel, Bath Road, Longford. The driver refused to take us as we were going to pay in Scottish bank notes. He claimed they were not legal tender. We tried to insist but he refused to take us. We felt quite intimidated and got out.

The attendant summoned another cab. This time the cab driver charged £16 for the short trip. I paid with a Scottish £20 note. He refused to give me change. He said the note was not legal tender and that he would not accept the correct fare if it included “Scottish” coins. We pointed out that all coins were identical but he then drove off with his door wide open.

This is shocking behaviour at the gateway to London and the 2012 Olympics.

Dr Edward Fitzsimons,

4 Kilmardinny Crescent, Bearsden.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/comment/h ... -1.1119144


I don't take Scottish notes due to the high amount of fakes. IMO he was right.

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GBC wrote:
As Grandad points out, I'm from Scotland, and even I have trouble keeping up with which notes are current and which are not.

Then we have the added bonus of having RBS notes, Clydesdale Bank notes and Bank of Scotland notes. Some new, some out of date and no doubt some forged. I can understand why some drivers are reluctant to accept them.

Its not just the taxi trade, you get grief everywhere down here when you produce a Scottish note, I use any I get in the self service tills at tesco, they don't discriminate!

And NO, you don't see lots of Scottish / Northern Ireland notes at the airport. Kings Cross or Euston, then yes.


Fair points. It's the Irish notes I'm a bit worried about, but I've never refused one.

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A ton to go up town? Is this the same urban myth you pedalled to me 8 years ago that I made over £500 a day? Sure ! :-s


Sorry, I forgot you were part-time :lol:

And I think you've misrepresented what I said anyway, which was that you could drop a monkey on a longish shift on a busy day.

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Griffen may charge that, but I'll take you to W1 for about £60


Well I wasn't talking about YOU.

And I did mention the City, which would be a good £20 on top of the W1 fare, at least at the extremes?
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I believe this is how the Ph sees it in Edinburgh, and they are pounding away relentlessly.


How exactly is ph in Edinburgh/Scotland any different than ph elsewhere in England/Wales


Edinburgh is unusual for a big city in the the HCs still outnumber the PH, suggesting that the PH sector was late in developing, as I think the numbers show.

Liverpool is similar, if I remember correctly. Glasgow is a bit more like the average big English city in that PH vastly outnumber HC.
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