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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 1:58 pm 
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according to boris johnson taxi emmisions are killing 1400 people a year.....

http://theandersonshelter.blogspot.com/ ... davis.html

Saturday, 3 September 2011Sack Boris....By David Davis.


I was not surprised at all to read about the changes that TFL are making.
I have clearly stated my views previously with regards to TFL, they are supposed to be a Public Body yet all they do is leach taxpayers money in return for acting unlawfully and improperly.



In 2009, Hendy was Paid £348,444. plus £61,466 bonus [1]
A recent article in The Standard showed that 379 TFL employees are paid in excess of £100k
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That would be obscene for a public body which is doing a good job; for this bunch who are making unlawful and improper decisions, it is criminal.


London Taxi Drivers backed Boris for his election yet he is the man who is ultimately responsible. Members of Parliament and London Assembly Members have asked the Mayor questions about the improper conduct of TFL, month in month out. He has either sidestepped or ignored any questions for the last 2 years. He has effectively covered up their improper conduct.


The Mayor has stated that 4267 people a year are dying from pollution and that 30% of that is attributed to taxis, yet he has conducted no emissions testing to prove exactly what the emissions from taxis are. Instead he has approved an age limit for taxis which is unlawful and improper;
It goes against best practice advice from the Department of Transport and will actually not have any effect on reducing emissions. It will only serve to put taxi drivers at a commercial disadvantage and the 2 companies selling new taxis at a commercial advantage.


TFL as an entity should not be allowed to continue to exist in its current format. The Mayor should be sacked for failing to comply with his Duty of Care to implement proper and effective Policies instead he has done nothing, allowing thousands of people to die from pollution and then blaming taxi drivers. He could have implemented an engine clean up program or a program to replace older taxi engines with newer Euro 5 engines at a subsidised cost. Perhaps that may not result in anyone at TFL earning a commission so it would not be worth considering !


It is not just one decision or policy that is wrong it is the system that is in place which allows TFL to act in an improper way.


The only way to stop a dictatorship is to protest until the Government change it. The only way the London Taxi Trade will survive is to organise and take action immediately. Any issues about which trade organisation you belong to should be ignored and action taken.
Taxi Drivers should ask their local MP for a Public Inquiry into the improper conduct of TFL, which is resulting in deaths every week from pollution (because of their ineffective policies). Those MPs would then have to take action.


TFL are blaming Taxis for the deaths from pollution and then implementing improper policies to persecute the Taxi trade. It is actually The Mayor and TFL themselves that are to blame for not implementing proper and effective strategies across the board to reduce emissions.
Regards Dave Davies


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:40 pm 
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The Mayor has stated that 4267 people a year are dying from pollution and that 30% of that is attributed to taxis,

I would send in an FoI asking for the statistical evidence he used to back up his assertion.

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Boris is spinning statistics to appear a trendy shade of green.

I guess if we all took the National yearly UK death rate and divided it up by the amount of things that it is vaguely possible to die from then I guess he might be right...but then again its just surmising that because its a possibility its undoubtebly true?

Bad Science from a blonde bufoon, he's definitely confusing possibility with probability.. :roll:


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So what he is saying is that taxis cause 30% of the pollution ?


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sasha wrote:
So what he is saying is that taxis cause 30% of the pollution ?

No only the deaths. :sad:

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andycable wrote:
according to boris johnson taxi emmisions are killing 1400 people a year.....

http://theandersonshelter.blogspot.com/ ... davis.html

Saturday, 3 September 2011Sack Boris....By David Davis.

I was not surprised at all to read about the changes that TFL are making.
I have clearly stated my views previously with regards to TFL, they are supposed to be a Public Body yet all they do is leach taxpayers money in return for acting unlawfully and improperly.

In 2009, Hendy was Paid £348,444. plus £61,466 bonus [1]
A recent article in The Standard showed that 379 TFL employees are paid in excess of £100k

Click here
That would be obscene for a public body which is doing a good job; for this bunch who are making unlawful and improper decisions, it is criminal.

London Taxi Drivers backed Boris for his election yet he is the man who is ultimately responsible. Members of Parliament and London Assembly Members have asked the Mayor questions about the improper conduct of TFL, month in month out. He has either sidestepped or ignored any questions for the last 2 years. He has effectively covered up their improper conduct.

The Mayor has stated that 4267 people a year are dying from pollution and that 30% of that is attributed to taxis, yet he has conducted no emissions testing to prove exactly what the emissions from taxis are. Instead he has approved an age limit for taxis which is unlawful and improper;

It goes against best practice advice from the Department of Transport and will actually not have any effect on reducing emissions. It will only serve to put taxi drivers at a commercial disadvantage and the 2 companies selling new taxis at a commercial advantage.

TFL as an entity should not be allowed to continue to exist in its current format. The Mayor should be sacked for failing to comply with his Duty of Care to implement proper and effective Policies instead he has done nothing, allowing thousands of people to die from pollution and then blaming taxi drivers. He could have implemented an engine clean up program or a program to replace older taxi engines with newer Euro 5 engines at a subsidised cost. Perhaps that may not result in anyone at TFL earning a commission so it would not be worth considering !

It is not just one decision or policy that is wrong it is the system that is in place which allows TFL to act in an improper way.

The only way to stop a dictatorship is to protest until the Government change it. The only way the London Taxi Trade will survive is to organise and take action immediately. Any issues about which trade organisation you belong to should be ignored and action taken.

Taxi Drivers should ask their local MP for a Public Inquiry into the improper conduct of TFL, which is resulting in deaths every week from pollution (because of their ineffective policies). Those MPs would then have to take action.

TFL are blaming Taxis for the deaths from pollution and then implementing improper policies to persecute the Taxi trade. It is actually The Mayor and TFL themselves that are to blame for not implementing proper and effective strategies across the board to reduce emissions.

Regards Dave Davies

Boris has always been a right clever C**T!!

HTF does he, or can he trace and seperate the fumes from London's taxis and the fumes from London's buses and establish without a shadow of doubt that it is the fumes from London's taxis that are killing Londoners, whereas the fumes from London's buses mysteriously miss all the lungs of the 1,400 diseased and dying Londoners!!

And that happens every year, FFS!!!

Boris!!! You're an ar*e!!!

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Well said BC :lol:

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What about the LGV's that are in London on a daily basis??

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I believe that the greatest pollutants in and around London are caused by it's airports :-|

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I believe that the greatest pollutants in and around London are caused by it's airports :-|

You are sliding into the 'Clever Boris' league!!!

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If 30% of the deaths are attributed to the taxis then presumably the other 70% are attributed to the buses, planes and other things. :roll:
You can't just bury your head in the sand and pretend that it isn't happening.

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If 30% of the deaths are attributed to the taxis then presumably the other 70% are attributed to the buses, planes and other things. :roll:
You can't just bury your head in the sand and pretend that it isn't happening.

They tried this crap in Brum and were going to restrict the age of cabs to whatever age at the time.

Every city has to produce an Air Quality Action Plan programme every five years; European legislation.

Birmingham's document didn't even have taxis in the pie-chart!!!

We asked the powers that be to go forth and fornicate.

They didn't come back; still fornicating!!!

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grandad wrote:
If 30% of the deaths are attributed to the taxis then presumably the other 70% are attributed to the buses, planes and other things. :roll:
You can't just bury your head in the sand and pretend that it isn't happening.

Click on this link;

http://www.birmingham.gov.uk/cs/Satelli ... rmode=live

Then click on the PDF link to Air Quality Action Plan consultation 2011 (Size:1.62 MbType:PDF)

Go to page 43 and look at the pie-chart there; still no taxis mentioned!!

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Sussex wrote:
sasha wrote:
So what he is saying is that taxis cause 30% of the pollution ?

No only the deaths. :sad:

Isn't that the same thing ? If 100% of the deaths are caused by 100% of the pollution then 30% of the deaths must be caused by 30% of the pollution !?


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