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Bank of England pumps £50bn more into economy
Bank of England The Bank has already pumped £325bn into the economy
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18724010

The Bank of England has announced it will pump a further £50bn into the UK economy over the next four months through its quantitative easing (QE) programme to try to help the economy.

QE aims to boost the economy by buying bonds. The latest increase will take the total stimulus to £375bn.

The Bank also said it would leave UK interest rates unchanged at a record low of 0.5%.

Meanwhile, the European Central Bank cut its interest rate to 0.75% from 1%.

The Bank of England's Monetary Policy Committee (MPC) has held rates at 0.5% for more than three years.

The Bank said that the UK economy, which is back in recession, had "barely grown for a year and a half".

It added that growth in export markets had also slowed. The eurozone debt crisis was "weighing on confidence here", it said.

Without an increase in QE, the Bank said there was a danger that inflation would fall below its target rate of 2%.

Inflation as measured by the Consumer Price Index currently stands at 2.8%, down from 5.2% in September last year.
New measures

The additional stimulus had been expected following last month's MPC meeting, when four of the nine members voted to increase QE.

Since then, the UK economy has shown no real signs of recovery. A series of surveys released this week suggested that both the manufacturing and construction sectors had contracted in June, while growth in the service sector had slowed to an eight-month low.

Last month, the Bank announced two new stimulus measures. The first of these will provide banks with access to tens of billions of pounds of cheap credit on the basis that they lend this on to businesses.

The second provides banks with access to cash, should they encounter any short-term funding difficulties.

Analysts suggested there could be further stimulus measures on the way as the Bank tries to kick-start the UK economy, which shrank by 0.3% in first three months of this year and by 0.4% in the final quarter of 2011.

"We think it is the next step in a series of measures they are set to undertake over the next 12-18 months, said Adam Chester at Lloyds.

"It suggests the Bank of England has underlying concerns that growth is flagging and they need to do something about that."

Ross Walker at RBS agreed: "Overall there's a dovish bias here and we could easily see further loosening in November."
'Weaker pensions'

While these measures are designed to boost demand and economic growth, pensions experts warned that those on the verge of retirement would suffer as a consequence.

"There is no doubt [QE] short-changes businesses running final salary pensions, and people who are about to retire," said Joanne Segars, chief executive of the National Association of Pension Funds.

Buying gilts pushes up their price, which in turn lowers the interest rate they pay out.

"[This] increases the deficits of final salary pension funds and means people get a worse rate on their annuity. Those who are retiring could be locked into a weaker pension for the rest of their days," said Ms Segars.

She did concede, however, that a stronger economy would benefit pension funds.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:18 pm 
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Roosevelt proved it spend your way out of a recession so

Build 1 milion councils houses.

repair the Roads

Invest in the NHS instead trying to destroy it

Reopen and Nationalise the Railways.

repair the schools

Improve the education system

Nationalise the Utilities all of them Gas Water Electricity

You want to save some dough DUMP the Royal Family complete waste of space and incredibly expensive once the true figures are revealed =D> =D> =D>

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:44 pm 
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Roosevelt proved it spend your way out of a recession so

Build 1 milion councils houses.

repair the Roads

Invest in the NHS instead trying to destroy it

Reopen and Nationalise the Railways.

repair the schools

Improve the education system

Nationalise the Utilities all of them Gas Water Electricity

You want to save some dough DUMP the Royal Family complete waste of space and incredibly expensive once the true figures are revealed =D> =D> =D>




To spend out is the only way out tbh, why they can't see that is beyond me, it's parallel with speculate to accumilate, their way is "what shall we do when we hit bone"


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Bloody HELL Doom "Great minds think alike" ? :D :D :D :D

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:50 pm 
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To spend out is the only way out tbh, why they can't see that is beyond me,


My credit cards are maxed out and I'm struggling to keep up the payments. I can't work any more than I already do so I quite like the idea of getting a new HP agreement to buy a new car? At least I'll have a bit of extra comfort for a while and it will help provide manufacturing jobs for a bit while I'm waiting for the Bankruptcy Petition to arrive.

IMHO politics get in the way of good government.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:55 pm 
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To spend out is the only way out tbh, why they can't see that is beyond me,


My credit cards are maxed out and I'm struggling to keep up the payments. I can't work any more than I already do so I quite like the idea of getting a new HP agreement to buy a new car? At least I'll have a bit of extra comfort for a while and it will help provide manufacturing jobs for a bit while I'm waiting for the Bankruptcy Petition to arrive.

IMHO politics get in the way of good government.



Thing is that is a perfect example of why not 2J's, however if the lenders and the borrower's are clever enough to check each other out there won't be a problem, don't lend to max'ed out people, don't borrow from the 75% apr bandwagon, currently it's a no brainer, they are paying a lot of people exactly the same in benefits as wages, so better to have them producing rather than getting bored and going rotten, and that is a proven case, if the human brain is allowed to sit idle it dies.


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I absolutely agree benefits are bad other than as a safety net for those in need. The problem I think politicians never mention or face up to is that there is a portion of the population that "ain't very bright but good at lifting fings". In days past there used to be well reasonably paid unskilled jobs in factories, building trades, transport etc. These don't exist now. There are well paid jobs and unskilled jobs but not with both characteristics.

My wife works as a receptionist at our local comp school. We live in a semi rural area in one of the most expensive parts of the UK and in theory the school should be populated entirely by "nice" kids. It isn't. There is a significant minority of very unpleasant ill disciplined bad behaving kids. If this is the situation in a nice area, when multiplied nationwide taking into account less nice areas, we as a country are screwed in the future!

Anecdotally most of the bad apples are of the "less able" make up and have absolutely no interest in their education or doing the sort of work their ability would facilitate. The system is failing to recognise this and to find a way to inspire and motivate them to get work within their capabilities. I fear many forsee aany easy option on benefits rather than low paid boring unpleasant work.

How did I go off on that tangent?

Immigration? The ONLY thing a new immigrant gets is a work permit! End of. Work permit has a number so that a check can be made they are paying tax on earnings. If no tax paid what are they doing to survive? No tax paid = no available work, so go home or not declaring so sent home.

I am a capitalist by instinct and of the opinion socialism could never work as it is against human nature. However the bank scams etc offend me greatly. What happened to the wealthy philanthropy we used to see. E.G. Cadbury's with their worker's villages etc. Oh I know aren't they called PH Baron's now?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:23 pm 
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I absolutely agree benefits are bad other than as a safety net for those in need. The problem I think politicians never mention or face up to is that there is a portion of the population that "ain't very bright but good at lifting fings". In days past there used to be well reasonably paid unskilled jobs in factories, building trades, transport etc. These don't exist now. There are well paid jobs and unskilled jobs but not with both characteristics.

My wife works as a receptionist at our local comp school. We live in a semi rural area in one of the most expensive parts of the UK and in theory the school should be populated entirely by "nice" kids. It isn't. There is a significant minority of very unpleasant ill disciplined bad behaving kids. If this is the situation in a nice area, when multiplied nationwide taking into account less nice areas, we as a country are screwed in the future!

Anecdotally most of the bad apples are of the "less able" make up and have absolutely no interest in their education or doing the sort of work their ability would facilitate. The system is failing to recognise this and to find a way to inspire and motivate them to get work within their capabilities. I fear many forsee aany easy option on benefits rather than low paid boring unpleasant work.

How did I go off on that tangent?

Immigration? The ONLY thing a new immigrant gets is a work permit! End of. Work permit has a number so that a check can be made they are paying tax on earnings. If no tax paid what are they doing to survive? No tax paid = no available work, so go home or not declaring so sent home.

I am a capitalist by instinct and of the opinion socialism could never work as it is against human nature. However the bank scams etc offend me greatly. What happened to the wealthy philanthropy we used to see. E.G. Cadbury's with their worker's villages etc. Oh I know aren't they called PH Baron's now?


They were THATCHERED greed and me myself and I took over which brings us back to Gideon Osborne arseole !!!!!!!!!!!

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