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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:12 pm 
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Thanks for the Heads-up on the act but there is nothing there that says if a PH driver charges more than it says on the meter he is guilty of an offence.


First of all private hire drivers don't set fares, do they? I think you will find it is the operator who sets the fares and it is also the operator who registers the fares with the council when a taxi-meter is used. So if any private hire driver wanted to charge more than what is displayed on the meter then he would have to confirm it with the operator, wouldn't he? Or does your council allow "private hire drivers" to set fares and charge what they want for any journey?

Before we move onto anything else I think first we first need to bury the notion that private hire drivers can set fares.

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I think it is fair to say that the tariff is set between the LAs and the representative bodies for taxi drivers.


Mr Allo Allo is specifically talking about "private hire" and not hackney carriage.

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allo allo wrote:
Thanks for the Heads-up on the act but there is nothing there that says if a PH driver charges more than it says on the meter he is guilty of an offence.


First of all private hire drivers don't set fares, do they? I think you will find it is the operator who sets the fares and it is also the operator who registers the fares with the council when a taxi-meter is used. So if any private hire driver wanted to charge more than what is displayed on the meter then he would have to confirm it with the operator, wouldn't he? Or does your council allow "private hire drivers" to set fares and charge what they want for any journey?

Before we move onto anything else I think first we first need to bury the notion that private hire drivers can set fares.

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JD


I think it is fair to say that the tariff is set between the LAs and the representative bodies for taxi drivers.


Mr Allo Allo is specifically talking about "private hire" and not hackney carriage.

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JD


Riiiiight! so why would a private hire office need a meter in the first place?

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cabby john wrote:
First of all you have to take on board that most if not all private hire/taxi companies have a mix of hackney and private hire drivers. So that being the case there is no way that you are going to have two different meters running within the company with different tariffs.


What radio companies choose to do is neither here nor there. Private hire operators running radio companies don't set hackney carriage fares but they do set their own private hire fares. How the two come together is immaterial. Mr Allo Allo wants to know if private hire drivers can over-charge punters by charging them more than the legal fare that the private hire operator has registered with the council and that which is calibrated on the taxi-meter.

Every contract for the hire of a private hire vehicle licensed under the Act of 1976 shall be deemed to be made with the operator who accepted the booking for that vehicle whether or not he himself provided the vehicle. That is why operators set fares and not private hire drivers.

In case anyone hasn't realised, demanding more than the fare displayed on the meter whether or not you are hackney carriage or private hire driver is actually theft.

Before anyone mentions soiling I should point out that soiling charges have nothing whatsoever to do with taxi fares and is a separate charge altogether.

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cabby john wrote:
Riiiiight! so why would a private hire office need a meter in the first place?


Well that's down to each individual operator, it would be better to ask one of the private hire operators on here why they use meters.

Excluding London, in England, Scotland and Wales operators have a choice. However if they choose to have a meter installed then it has to be calibrated and sealed in order that drivers cant overcharge.

In England and Wales the amount of fare is not governed by the council but once it is programmed into the meter then that is what the passenger pays. If operators wish to change it then they can at anytime.

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