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PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:45 pm 
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I just been done out of an £80 run which was booked in advance, I Took a family from the Station to their Holiday cottage and had been booked to carry out a Sightseeing run for them as they had no car, now the guys phoned me up cancelling the run for tomorrow morning saying that the Holiday Cottage owner has put own private car at the families disposal for tomorrow and have put one of the holiday party on her own insurance as a named driver so they can use her car for their own use over their stay...apparently this is normal practise for this Holiday cottage owner.

My question is..can this be Legal, would the Insurance company know what she's up to, It's not like she runs a registered car rental service.

What's your take on it.

As it is Ive lost out on an £80 run that I cant fill..yet they still expect me to take them to the Station on their way home!


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:22 pm 
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In England I think that would be illegal rout v swallow hotels

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:24 pm 
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captain cab wrote:
In England I think that would be illegal rout v swallow hotels

But a driver hasn't been/isn't supplied.

No different than renting from Hertz.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:32 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
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In England I think that would be illegal rout v swallow hotels

But a driver hasn't been/isn't supplied.

No different than renting from Hertz.


But does Hertz add a named driver to it's owner's private car policy.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:35 pm 
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bloodnock wrote:
But does Hertz add a named driver to it's owner's private car policy.

We start on the basis that as no driver is being supplied with the car it's not a licensing matter.

Therefore it's a commercial matter, and I think there is nothing untoward for a person with a car to gain a financial benefit by putting someone else on their insurance.

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Sussex wrote:
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But a driver hasn't been/isn't supplied.

No different than renting from Hertz.


But if the customer said 'we cant afford the cottage because the taxi dude is ripping us off to the tune of 80 quid, so we cant come'

and the cottage owner says 'yeah, he's always doing that, tell you what, you can have my motor'

isn't that - whilst not .....

oh forget it.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 9:39 pm 
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captain cab wrote:
Sussex wrote:
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But a driver hasn't been/isn't supplied.

No different than renting from Hertz.


But if the customer said 'we cant afford the cottage because the taxi dude is ripping us off to the tune of 80 quid, so we cant come'

and the cottage owner says 'yeah, he's always doing that, tell you what, you can have my motor'

isn't that - whilst not .....

oh forget it.



The Taxi Dude was ripping no one off..


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 9:50 pm 
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bloodnock wrote:


The Taxi Dude was ripping no one off..


I know, I oz duin bantz

I think you have a case tbh, its grumps that don't :wink:

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 1:53 am 
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Sussex wrote:
bloodnock wrote:
But does Hertz add a named driver to it's owner's private car policy.

We start on the basis that as no driver is being supplied with the car it's not a licensing matter.

Therefore it's a commercial matter, and I think there is nothing untoward for a person with a car to gain a financial benefit by putting someone else on their insurance.



The court cases state that no one should obtain a financial benefit,re the cottage owner supplying transport is the same as an hotel supplying mini-bus for customers use.
All vehicles must be licensed,along with drivers.

This is the kind of thing the government want to push through claiming it would increase tourism when it definitely would decrease TAXI proprietor/driver earnings.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 2:34 am 
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bloodnock wrote:
As it is Ive lost out on an £80 run that I cant fill..yet they still expect me to take them to the Station on their way home!


Did you let them know that you will be losing out?

Will you bother taking them to the station or will you let them down the night before?


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 7:50 am 
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Southport PH wrote:
bloodnock wrote:
As it is Ive lost out on an £80 run that I cant fill..yet they still expect me to take them to the Station on their way home!


Did you let them know that you will be losing out?

Will you bother taking them to the station or will you let them down the night before?



They knew Id be losing out, but I'll always put my good reputation for reliability before I through my Toys out the pram.

My biggest mistake I guess was not taking a sizeable non returnable deposit like I more often do.

I'm just a soft touch.


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captain cab wrote:
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The Taxi Dude was ripping no one off..


I know, I oz duin bantz

I think you have a case tbh, its grumps that don't :wink:

But the act says car with driver, it doesn't say car with insurance for you to self drive.

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heathcote wrote:
The court cases state that no one should obtain a financial benefit,re the cottage owner supplying transport is the same as an hotel supplying mini-bus for customers use.
All vehicles must be licensed,along with drivers.

This is the kind of thing the government want to push through claiming it would increase tourism when it definitely would decrease TAXI proprietor/driver earnings.

The hotel owner is supplying a car only, no driver. Thus it's not a private hire vehicle as described by section 80.

If it's not a private hire vehicle then it doesn't come under the provisions of our 1976 act, or the Scottish (section 23 (2)) whenever it was act.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 4:02 am 
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bloodnock wrote:
They knew Id be losing out, but I'll always put my good reputation for reliability before I through my Toys out the pram.

My biggest mistake I guess was not taking a sizeable non returnable deposit like I more often do.

I'm just a soft touch.


Regardless of your reputation, I wouldn't bother picking them up and I would cancel the night before. How easy would it be for them to get another taxi in short notice. Are you in a quiet part of the country?


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Southport PH wrote:
bloodnock wrote:
They knew Id be losing out, but I'll always put my good reputation for reliability before I through my Toys out the pram.

My biggest mistake I guess was not taking a sizeable non returnable deposit like I more often do.

I'm just a soft touch.


Regardless of your reputation, I wouldn't bother picking them up and I would cancel the night before. How easy would it be for them to get another taxi in short notice. Are you in a quiet part of the country?



Yes..very quiet, but I'll not do to them what they'd do to me..leave em high n dry.


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