Taxi Driver Online

If you wanted to purchase a newsagents or post office business that was in leased premises owned by your local council would you expect that for free except for the cost of the lease ?
At the end of the day they are a business and anybody in business is there to make money. The people that benefit the most from selling plates are the one's who get them issued free from the council after that as in any business you take the risk on wether the value of your plate increases or decreases. I purchased a plate as a business and think that most people that complain about the prices of plates are the one's who are either jealous because they are not making money from it themselves, are not prepared to take the risk or just expect everything for nothing.

Just imagine going to purchase that newsagents who's current owner took on the lease of a new building and now had a turn over of £200,000 per year. You like the business and decide you would like to purchase it so ask the owner how much the business is he replies by telling you because the premises are leased from the council you can have the business for free.

Great stuff we'd all be looking for businesses situated in council premises

So plates are leased from the council are they!

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Grandad,

We are not talking about business premises. We are talking about a piece of plastic which gets screwed to the back of a vehicle.

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That belongs to the council

Maybe....but mine is in paper form too

CC

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George Carlin

Which then allows you to work as a hackney carriage business, plate still belongs to the council so do the business premises, whats the difference.
Maybe you just don't like to see people getting on in life not all of us are plate barons, we just buy a plate so we can work as and when we want to make a living, don't tar us all with the same brush

I think you're using the wrong type of thinking.

A shop, albeit leased from a council is dependant upon what it sells and how it sells it to be a success, your council wont necessarily put restrictions upon the number of shops it leases.

With a taxi in a regulated area you are selling a limited commodity.

If taxi numbers are to be limited....(and I think they should be), it should be dependent upon demand.

CC

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George Carlin

Didn't think of it like that, numbers are limited in our area and are dependent on un-met demand surveys.

On the other hand councils only have a certain amount of business premises to let and once they are all leased out (very unlikely) is that then a limited commodity

In your scenario the newsagent/post office is the vehicle not the plate. The plate would be the license to operate.

So your scenario is flawed as no council own any hackney carriage vehicles.

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IDFIMH

So is mine. It is only part of my business - just like my driving licences.
Do you suppose the council or DVLA would allow me to sell those as well?

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A HC proprietors license in England is transferable.....you're being pedantic about the DVLA one

CC

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George Carlin

You can obtain business premises without leasing them from the council.

I can accept there may be a case for restricting taxi numbers, although I don't agree with it.
The purpose of restricting licences is supposedly so that there is no over supply of taxis, and that drivers can make a decent living.
When they no longer use the plate themselves, it should be handed back and issued to someone who has had to wait because the numbers are restricted - not used to fund the retirement of those who have already made their living with it, or to line the pockets of the lazy and greedy.
It may be legal to sell the licence but it isn't fair or right.
A cabby's business is more than a square piece of plastic and a sheet of paper. As Sussex pointed out, a cabby's premises are his cab. The plate is more akin to the shopkeeper's sign above the door which says he is licenced to sell alcohol.
When you sell a business such as a shop, you sell far more than just premises. You get regular customers, contracts etc. - A going concern that took time to build up. Sell someone a cab licence and they get no more than permission to trade. Seems to me that they are paying for a business they then have to build up themselves

So how does charging someone an extortionate sum for a plastic sign and a piece of paper equate to selling a business, CC?

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I dont know...but it does!

CC

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George Carlin

I had to look up the Dictionary to See what "Pedantic" meant....I thought a "Pedantic" was the title for a lover of Pedicabs..small wonder it didnt fit into the conversation...

I think they are selling an illusion here then, not a business.

If limiting numbers of taxis, so all drivers can earn a decent living, is the real reason for restricting hackney operator licences, would it not make more sense to restrict hackney driver numbers?
After all a taxi can have several drivers, and if most do then the restriction has failed in it's proported objective.
Whereas a restricted number of drivers would require no more than 1 cab each. This would lead to fewer cabs on the road at any given time. Not that I'm proposing such a thing but it would make more sense than restricting cabs.

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