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getting back to the point, can we hope the Irish could stem the power of the EU?

a simple NO vote would be most welcome

switzerland and norway arent in it, and they seem ok...

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All I will say is to Google "IRA V Republic of Ireland" and you will see that the troubles go back a long long way. Why I say google it, because there are far to many links just to pick out one.............perhaps the picture will begin to unfold :wink:


You can't be sugesting that the IRA were bombing pubs in the republic?
I think that although there have been problems since Northern Ireland was created most people accept that the real trouble started in the late 60s/early 70s


The "Trouble" started in 1700s....

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wannabeeahack wrote:

The "Trouble" started in 1700s....


I think you'll find it started a long time before that.

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captain cab wrote:
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The "Trouble" started in 1700s....


I think you'll find it started a long time before that.

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what, 4pm? 3pm?



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switzerland and norway arent in it, and they seem ok...

Well Norway has got billions of oil money, and Switzerland has still got billions of **** money.

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switzerland and norway arent in it, and they seem ok...

Well Norway has got billions of oil money, and Switzerland has still got billions of **** money.


right, we didnt get any North sea oil then?

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right, we didnt get any North sea oil then?

Well they have to divvy it up with about 10% of the folks we have to divvy it up with.

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right, we didnt get any North sea oil then?

Well they have to divvy it up with about 10% of the folks we have to divvy it up with.


Arguably we had a rather large navy and freed europe.....I would have thought we were entitled to 100% :wink:

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as for the swiss having **** gold, can they SPEND it, I thought it was just in storage - for safe keeping, etc...

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as for the swiss having **** gold, can they SPEND it, I thought it was just in storage - for safe keeping, etc...

Yeah ..... and the owners are going to come back for it with the original receipts & paying in slips any day now!

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huh, not just me chap, thats the UK finished, even IF TB becomes president (he only looks after his own, mind you, Kinnock did the same, once the snouts are in the EU-trough)

(lets hope he gets mandy a job out there)


best learn french or german, cos english will be banned soon, euros will be forced upon us soon, and we will all need LHD cars, to comply with european driving....


laugh if you want, but remember i said it

just remind me, when do we get a referendum? and why did the Irish get TWO?....


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On 20 April 2004, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, Tony Blair, announced in the House of Commons that a referendum on the ratification of the proposed treaty would be held if it was agreed by the European Council. Such agreement was reached in June 2004, but no firm date was set for the referendum. On 29 October 2004, the Foreign Secretary Jack Straw said that the referendum would be held in early 2006, providing Labour were re-elected in the 2005 general election. He ruled out 2005 as this would coincide with the UK holding the rotating presidency of the Council of the European Union.

On 23 November 2004 in the Queen's Speech it was announced that a bill paving the way for a referendum on the EU Constitution would be brought before Parliament. Following the French and Dutch rejection of the treaty, Jack Straw announced on 6 June 2005, to the House of Commons, that the plans for the referendum in early 2006 had been shelved.

The issue became moot following the replacement of the proposed constitution with the agreement of the text of the Treaty of Lisbon on 19 October 2007.


Dont forget the French and the Dutch had already opposed the Treaty (they got a vote...) as did the Irish - first time


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The United Kingdom referendum on the Treaty establishing a Constitution for Europe was expected to take place in 2006 to decide whether the United Kingdom should ratify the proposed European Constitution (Constitution of the European Union). Following the rejection of the Constitution by voters in France in May 2005 and in the Netherlands in June 2005, the referendum was postponed indefinitely.

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This "Yes" vote truly drives it home why a "No" was needed....they already voted no and were bullied into voting yes. That is proof positive that the EU couldnt give a stuff about the views of the people because if we dont do it the EU way then its not allowed.

We have come under the european Jackboot after 63 years...not a **** Jackboot but a bigger more authoritarian Jackboot..that of the Federal EU.

To think we only Voted to join a common market place and we got this bunch of miscreants instead, a parcel of rogues every one of them. our money goes outwards through the EU to all and sundry and all we get back is bloody Directives and ars*hole laws.

Im for getting out of it as we'd better off...anyone else coming? :lol:


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just remind me, when do we get a referendum? and why did the Irish get TWO?....

I would have though that was obvious to everyone, especially a man of your intelligence!!

To be sure ..... to be sure!!!

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This "Yes" vote truly drives it home why a "No" was needed....they already voted no and were bullied into voting yes. That is proof positive that the EU couldnt give a stuff about the views of the people because if we dont do it the EU way then its not allowed.

We have come under the european Jackboot after 63 years...not a **** Jackboot but a bigger more authoritarian Jackboot..that of the Federal EU.

To think we only Voted to join a common market place and we got this bunch of miscreants instead, a parcel of rogues every one of them. our money goes outwards through the EU to all and sundry and all we get back is bloody Directives and ars*hole laws.

Im for getting out of it as we'd better off...anyone else coming? :lol:


No its OK....I dont think the EC could f*ck things up as much as New Labour :lol:

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