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 Post subject: Re: fare increase???
PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:46 pm 
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actually i bet theyve proportioned the 28p rise over the "extra time" for you

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 Post subject: Re: fare increase???
PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:29 pm 
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If the Newspaper produced the "Copy" then they will have to repeat the Advertisement and offer a retraction/apology for free.

If the Council produced the "Copy" then they will have to repeat the Advertisement and offer a retraction/apology at their own expense.

Copy errors, of this kind, are frequent and the route to correction, well trodden. Ask the Graunaid!

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 Post subject: Re: fare increase???
PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:09 pm 
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CONSULTATION ON HACKNEY CARRIAGE TARIFF INCREASE
 
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that Melton Borough Council in pursuance of powers granted under the Local Government (Miscellaneous Provision) Act 1976 has made a Table of Fares for Hackney Carriages as set out in the Schedule hereto attached.
 
A copy of the Notice will be deposited at Parkside, The Cove Children’s and Community Centre, Sysonby Street, Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire, LE13 0LP, and The Edge Children’s and Community Centre, Dalby Road, LE13 0BQ for a period of 14 days from the date of publication of this Notice, and will be available for inspection without payment at all reasonable hours.
 
Following a request from Hackney Carriage Drivers and Operators to increase the tariff for fares for journeys within Melton Borough, consultation papers were sent to all Hackney Carriage drivers in Melton Borough and they were asked to suggest proposals for a new tariff. Out of 85 drivers 42 responses were received identifying 7 options from ‘no increase’ through to increases in the ‘drop’ and ‘running mile’.
 
The drivers met on 19th October 2011 and discussed the tariffs. The drivers unanimously voted in favour of a tariff increase and opinions were canvassed from those present on which proposed tariffs was considered to be the most appropriate. The majority ruled in favour of a minor increase in the drop rate, reducing the distance of the drop rate from 0.5 mile to 0.3 mile, with the running mile remaining the same.
 
On 16 November 2011 the Council's Rural, Economic and Environmental Affairs Committee resolved to accept the recommendation of the Head of Regulatory Services to proceed with the request to increase the tariffs that can be charged for journeys within the Borough.
 
A copy of the existing and proposed Table of Fares can be downloaded the increase in each tariff highlighted in red.
 
Any person wishing to object to the proposed Table of Fares should do so in writing to the undersigned by 30 January 2012. You can email your comments to the Council's Licensing section at licensing@melton.gov.uk .  If no objections are made the proposed fees shall come into operation on the 6 February 2012.


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 Post subject: Re: fare increase???
PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:15 pm 
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Looks like they have published the existing fares to me #-o


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 Post subject: Re: fare increase???
PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:17 pm 
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proposed fare

HACKNEY CARRIAGE TABLE OF FARES
THESE ARE THE MAXIMUM FARES THAT CAN BE CHARGED WITHIN THE BOROUGH OF MELTON
Daytime Rate (7am to 11pm) for up to 4 passengers  
TARIFF 1
For the first ⅓ mile​​(increase of 28p over the whole journey)​
For each mile thereafter​​​​
Waiting rate
£2.50
£1.40
£15.00 per hr
 
Night-time Rate (11pm to 7am) for up to 4 passengers        
TARIFF 2
For the first ⅓ mile​​(increase of 37p over the whole journey)​
For each mile thereafter​​​​​              
Waiting rate​​​​​                  
£3.00
£1.83
£20.00 per hr
 
a) Christmas Eve & New Years Eve Rate for up to 4  passengers
 
b)  Daytime Rate (7am to 11pm) for more than 4 passengers
TARIFF 3
For the first ⅓ mile​​(increase of 43p over the whole journey)​
For each mile thereafter​​​​​              
Waiting rate​​​​​                                  
£4.00
£2.16
£15.00 per hr
 
a) Christmas Day, Boxing Day, New Years Day; Good Friday, Easter Sunday, Easter Monday; Early May Bank Holiday, Spring Bank Holiday, Summer Bank Holiday Rate for up to 4 passengers
 
b) Night-time Rate (11pm to 7am) for more than 4 passengers
TARIFF 4
 
For the first ⅓ mile​​(increase of 56p over the whole journey)​  
For each mile thereafter​​​                                          
Waiting rate​
£5.00
£2.80
£30.00 per hr
 
EXTRA CHARGES
For each animal​​​​​                            
Guide dogs and listening dogs​​​​            
MAXIMUM SOILING CHARGE                                                    
£1.00
FREE
£100.00
 


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 Post subject: Re: fare increase???
PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:24 pm 
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Current table of fares been a long time since an increase,going to cost more to alter meters.

HACKNEY CARRIAGE TABLE OF FARES
01/12/08
Daytime Rate (7am to 11pm) for up to 4 passengers  
TARIFF 1
For the first ½ mile​​​​​
For each mile thereafter​​​​
Waiting rate
£2.50
£1.40
£15.00 per hr
 
Night-time Rate (11pm to 7am) for up to 4 passengers      
TARIFF 2
For the first ½ mile​​​​​
For each mile thereafter​​​​​            
Waiting rate​​​​​                
£3.00
£1.83
£20.00 per hr
 
a) Christmas Eve & New Years Eve Rate for up to 4  passengers
b) Daytime Rate (7am to 11pm) for more than 4 passengers
TARIFF 3
For the first ½ mile​​​​​
For each mile thereafter​​​​​            
Waiting rate​​​​​                                
£4.00
£2.16
£15.00 per hr
 
a) Christmas Day, Boxing Day, New Years Day; Good Friday, Easter Sunday, Easter Monday; Early May Bank Holiday, Spring Bank Holiday, Summer Bank Holiday Rate for up to 4 passengers
b) Night-time Rate (11pm to 7am) for more than 4 passengers
TARIFF 4
 
For the first ½ mile​​​​​  
For each mile thereafter​​​                                          
Waiting rate​
£5.00
£2.80
£30.00 per hr
 
EXTRA CHARGES
For each animal​​​​​                            
Guide dogs and listening dogs​​​​            
MAXIMUM SOILING CHARGE                                                    
£1.00
FREE
£100.00
 
In the event of any complaint please contact the Licensing Section at Melton Borough Council on 01664 502502
or, visit http://www.melton.gov.uk for further information
 


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 Post subject: Re: fare increase???
PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:34 pm 
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it's not copied to well you will have to move the figures to the side ie

For the first ½ mile​​​​​ £2.50
For each mile thereafter​​​​ £1.40
Waiting rate £15.00 per hr


It would appear that the drop has only changed to For the first ⅓ mile


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 Post subject: Re: fare increase???
PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:43 pm 
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There has been a 19% rise in fuel since 2008.the increase proposed is around 6%,your going to be around 13%worse off than in 2008 not a good increase when you also take the rising costs of insurance ect.


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 Post subject: Re: fare increase???
PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:46 pm 
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Here is my full objection.
I am writing to object to the proposed increase in the Hackney Carriage fares as advertised in the Melton Times issue dated 22 December 2011.
I object on the following grounds.
1. The initial period for submissions had a time limit for submission but the submissions were not date stamped to show whether they were received by the deadline or not.
2. Although drivers had the oportunity to use a proxy vote at the meeting, no instructions were issued to drivers on how to do this.
3. The list of proposed fare increases was not made available to drivers before the meeting on 19 October so drivers had no oportunity to use a proxy vote even if they knew how to do so.
4. Some drivers had made their wishes known by sending in proposals and although the impression was given that these would count as proxy votes, they were rejected at the meeting.
5. I believe that in approving the increase as published the committee has failed to take into account the increase in the running costs of a hackney carriage since the last increase some 3 years ago. For example just the increase in fuel and insurance over this period will require a hackney carriage to carry out 6500 journeys per year just to get back to the level at the last increase.
6. The enforcement team are pressing for better quality of vehicles but with this rise it will be impossible to achieve.
7. I believe that the delay in advertising the increase in the Melton Times was timed so that any appeals could not be heard at the January meeting of the REEA committee and would have to be put back to the March/April meeting.
8. The public notice printed in the Melton Times is incorrect in that the rate of increase is not the same as the letters sent out to drivers.
As it will clearly be around 12 months since drivers first asked for a review in April 2011 and prices have risen even further, I would ask the council to abandon this increase and start the process again and to do things correctly this time.

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 Post subject: Re: fare increase???
PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:50 pm 
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The costs for consultation and Implementing any change and for advertising does seem excessive at £1500


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 Post subject: Re: fare increase???
PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:52 pm 
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Why did they change the bylaws?


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 Post subject: Re: fare increase???
PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:56 pm 
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mancityfan wrote:
There has been a 19% rise in fuel since 2008.the increase proposed is around 6%,your going to be around 13%worse off than in 2008


your overall costs havent risen 19%, fuel is only 1 portion of your costs, my £85/wk fuel bill may now be £110 but my overall costs are only 5% higher and ive had 2%-3% increases each year on contract, so im in front, but dont tell anyone....

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 Post subject: Re: fare increase???
PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:59 pm 
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Grandad, in your first post you said the increase had been APPROVED, in your last you said PROPOSED increase

get a grip lad

and why are you against a rise?

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 Post subject: Re: fare increase???
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wannabeeahack wrote:
Grandad, in your first post you said the increase had been APPROVED, in your last you said PROPOSED increase

get a grip lad

and why are you against a rise?

I am not against a rise. I proposed a bigger rise, which I think is obvious from my objection.

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 Post subject: Re: fare increase???
PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:31 am 
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mancityfan wrote:
Why did they change the bylaws?

The bylaws have been changed to make it compulsary to use the meter for jobs within the borough. Previously it wasn't compulsary but you could not charge more than the fare would have metered, but one company was charging well above what the fare would have been on the meter.

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