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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 2:25 pm 
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Harold Best wrote:
A point I tried to make, though a local authority officer must at all times be reasonable

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No you said it had nothing to do with councils, and only the courts can deal with it.

Thankfully a member has cleared it up for us all. :wink:

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ok bring him to justice, charge him, change that status, but to remove a livelyhood on unsubstansiated rumour?



A bit rich coming from you that's been making this, that and the next allegation here and on other forums on the basis of 'unsubstantiated rumour'.

Perhaps you should apply your obvious concern for due process to your own conduct before pontificating about it with regard to third parties.

Yorkie, you are the weakest link...Goodbye

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I note you have banned 'Harold Best', can I ask, as a forum user what were the reasons for this? He seemed to be a reasoned arguement sort of bloke.

What was the evidence the person was 'yorkie' ?????

The mind boggles. :?:


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I note you have banned 'Harold Best', can I ask, as a forum user what were the reasons for this? He seemed to be a reasoned arguement sort of bloke.

What was the evidence the person was 'yorkie' ?????

The mind boggles. :?:

I suspect he is a decent type of bloke, however he has sided with the Dark Side. :lol: :lol:

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paulmills wrote:
It is wrong for the local authority to pass the buck! If they have been informed by the Police that they are investigating a 'serious' allegation they should be suspending the driver using Sec 61(1)(b) of the LG(MP)Act 1976..any other reasonable cause, and supporting their action with the case of Leeds City Council v Hussain ( which states that there is no need for a conclusion of reasonable chance of conviction before driver could be suspended)


Quite right, the only difference in the Hussain case and this hypothetical case we are discussing now is that Mr Hussain had actually been charged with an offence. However a person need not be charged for an offence if the Licensing authority have good reason to think that the license holder in question was not now a fit and proper person to hold a license.

Hearsay evidence does not normally carry enough weight to suspend a license but as case law now dictates a recommendation from a Chief Constable recommending that the person in question is not a fit and proper person to hold a license could be sufficient to suspend that license.

We should always remember that there is an appeal process involved here and a notice of appeal must follow any suspension.

Section 61.1.B of the MPA states "any other reasonable cause" and as I have said on previous occasions it is basically a catchall clause.

The Hussain case is an astute judgement, which reverses the Crown Court verdict, which also had its merits. Well worth reading and thank you Paul for mentioning it.

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greenbadgecabby wrote:
I note you have banned 'Harold Best', can I ask, as a forum user what were the reasons for this? He seemed to be a reasoned arguement sort of bloke.

What was the evidence the person was 'yorkie' ?????

The mind boggles. :?:


Well your mind didn't seem to be boggling in another place when you were clearly thinking along the same lines as us.

I was nearly 100% certain it was Yorkie when I read the first post last night, the structure of his writing, phraseology and general style of this postings were a dead giveaway.

We were just waiting to see how long it would take him to mention the s-word, given his pathological inability to refrain from doing so, and of course it didn't take long :lol:

Then of course there was the technical evidence only available to TDO admin, but I of course I can't let you into that :wink:

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hehe echoes of Charlie the paperlad

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