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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:00 pm 
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oh come on, its more than nationalism, any time its an Asian sounding name, some of you guys really let rip. Granted it does seem that there are more Asian sounding name drivers committing these sort of crimes.

also if its a muslim sounding name, then some of you really go to town, yet when its your own brethren, it seems to be toned down.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:11 pm 
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oh come on, its more than nationalism, any time its an Asian sounding name, some of you guys really let rip.

Granted it does seem that there are more Asian sounding name drivers committing these sort of crimes.

also if its a muslim sounding name, then some of you really go to town, yet when its your own brethren, it seems to be toned down.


well, there you go then, what exactly are we (or the majority) supposed to do, say nothing?

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:20 pm 
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they get punished dont they? I'm sure these guys get there just rewards in prison.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:47 pm 
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trotskys twin wrote:
Its a great forum for information and advice I appreciate it.

Unfortunately this media is instant in its impact for sure it can infuriate like no other, there are many diverse and valid views expressed in many forms polite aggravating and bleedin insulting, well were all grown up and should accept the medium. I have verballed Wanna Doom Bloodknock amonsgt others but I suspect were we to meet we'd wet ourselves laughing??

I beleve disagreement and debate is healthy but if you have the power to lock or delete posts could you resist it??


I was told stop the left wing rants, there were no rants just forcefull expression, are left wing views invalid because of the rght wing views of the moderators
no of course not, sure there need to be boundaries advocating genocide or racism would be a step too far for me.

This is a valuable asset the moderators could maybe allow themselves some more cooling down time before LOCKING and accept that left and right views and all in between are the honest valid and sincerely held views of most contributors?

Those I absolutely abhor are those too frightend to express an opinion.


I do not often agree with a lot of your posts but in the case of this one I agree 100% with what you say, this is after all meant to be a free country, allowing free speech within certain boundaries.
If people cannot say what they feel at that moment in time we might as well give up!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:36 pm 
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they get punished dont they? I'm sure these guys get there just rewards in prison.



No they don't, sex offenders are housed in seperate prisons.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:17 pm 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
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Nationalism is a crime now


Seems there's Nationalism and Nationalism...though both are the same it all depends on what Precedes the word Nationalism in its usage as to whether it acceptable or not.


so who decides what is acceptable and what is not?


Usually it's the Nationalists...


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:36 pm 
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187ums wrote:
oh come on, its more than nationalism, any time its an Asian sounding name, some of you guys really let rip. Granted it does seem that there are more Asian sounding name drivers committing these sort of crimes.

also if its a muslim sounding name, then some of you really go to town, yet when its your own brethren, it seems to be toned down.


Now, I'll bet good money on it that proportionately by head of population that there will be more crimes committed here by people with Asian or African sounding names than there will be in Asia or Africa by people with European sounding names. that means not that any Asian or African is worse or better than any European, it just infers that we have more Migrants from Asia or Africa over here than Asia or Africa has Migrants from Europe over there. That does not Imply that Most Crimes are committed by Asians, I'm sure most UK crimes are still perpetrated by homegrown wrongdoers regardless of the ethnic origins of the perpetrators name.

Maybe the question you should be asking 187ums is why those certain ethnic names appear in print so often considering they make up a small percentage of the population....is it the Courts or the Newspapers that is showing them in a bad light? you only see in here what the press or the judiciary has already released.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:37 pm 
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bloodnock wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
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Seems there's Nationalism and Nationalism...though both are the same it all depends on what Precedes the word Nationalism in its usage as to whether it acceptable or not.


so who decides what is acceptable and what is not?


Usually it's the Nationalists...


Nope, it's the law of the land. :D

True Nationalists want to promote the good of their nation and welcome people of all races creeds and colours with similar aims.

Racists promote their race above others and hide behind a pretence of Nationalism. :sad:

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:42 pm 
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gusmac wrote:
bloodnock wrote:
Seems there's Nationalism and Nationalism...though both are the same it all depends on what Precedes the word Nationalism in its usage as to whether it acceptable or not.


so who decides what is acceptable and what is not?



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Nope, it's the law of the land. :D

True Nationalists want to promote the good of their nation and welcome people of all races creeds and colours with similar aims.

Racists promote their race above others and hide behind a pretence of Nationalism. :sad:


And of course that would never ever happen here... #-o

You lucky I'm such a Multinationalistic Unionist...All for One and One for all regardless of colour or hue.. :lol:


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bloodnock wrote:
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Usually it's the Nationalists...


Nope, it's the law of the land. :D

True Nationalists want to promote the good of their nation and welcome people of all races creeds and colours with similar aims.

Racists promote their race above others and hide behind a pretence of Nationalism. :sad:


And of course that would never ever happen here... #-o

You lucky I'm such a Multinationalistic Unionist...All for One and One for all regardless of colour or hue.. :lol:


Of course it happens here. It happens everywhere.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:26 pm 
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bloodnock wrote:

You lucky I'm such a Multinationalistic Unionist...All for One and One for all regardless of colour or hue.. :lol:


I'm sure the rest of Europe will appreciate your conversion. :lol:

Straight banana anyone? :badgrin:

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To me the issue isn't what is and what isn't the law or the pros and cons of free speech, but one of common decency and not offending people who have done nothing wrong.

Why should drivers have to come on here to defend their race or their religion?

Snide 'nice British name' or 'another one of them' or 'same again' comments may or may not be racist, but IMO they should play no part in the ramblings on TDO.

Issues such as the petition the lad in Hull is dealing with are a great way of dealing with certain problems that we have in the taxi/PH trade.

Having a long check-able period before anyone gains a license makes bundles of sense, and would help deal with many of the problems with those foreign sounding names in the press.

I get the hump when thickos point the finger at the PH trade indicating that we are all touts and rapist, but that's nothing to the way drivers with an ethnic background must feel when they are being tarred by the same brush as the scumbags.

It's not right and surely the good folks of TDO are better than that.

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trotskys twin wrote:
Its a great forum for information and advice I appreciate it.

Unfortunately this media is instant in its impact for sure it can infuriate like no other, there are many diverse and valid views expressed in many forms polite aggravating and bleedin insulting, well were all grown up and should accept the medium. I have verballed Wanna Doom Bloodknock amonsgt others but I suspect were we to meet we'd wet ourselves laughing??

I beleve disagreement and debate is healthy but if you have the power to lock or delete posts could you resist it??

I was told stop the left wing rants, there were no rants just forcefull expression, are left wing views invalid because of the rght wing views of the moderators, no of course not, sure there need to be boundaries advocating genocide or racism would be a step too far for me.

This is a valuable asset the moderators could maybe allow themselves some more cooling down time before LOCKING and accept that left and right views and all in between are the honest valid and sincerely held views of most contributors?

Those I absolutely abhor are those too frightend to express an opinion.

Your best post ever, by a long way, Tovarisch Trotsky's Twin!!

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:23 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
To me the issue isn't what is and what isn't the law or the pros and cons of free speech, but one of common decency and not offending people who have done nothing wrong.

Why should drivers have to come on here to defend their race or their religion?

Snide 'nice British name' or 'another one of them' or 'same again' comments may or may not be racist, but IMO they should play no part in the ramblings on TDO.

Issues such as the petition the lad in Hull is dealing with are a great way of dealing with certain problems that we have in the taxi/PH trade.

Having a long check-able period before anyone gains a license makes bundles of sense, and would help deal with many of the problems with those foreign sounding names in the press.

I get the hump when thickos point the finger at the PH trade indicating that we are all touts and rapist, but that's nothing to the way drivers with an ethnic background must feel when they are being tarred by the same brush as the scumbags.

It's not right and surely the good folks of TDO are better than that.



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 10:28 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
To me the issue isn't what is and what isn't the law or the pros and cons of free speech, but one of common decency and not offending people who have done nothing wrong.

Why should drivers have to come on here to defend their race or their religion?

Snide 'nice British name' or 'another one of them' or 'same again' comments may or may not be racist, but IMO they should play no part in the ramblings on TDO.

Issues such as the petition the lad in Hull is dealing with are a great way of dealing with certain problems that we have in the taxi/PH trade.

Having a long check-able period before anyone gains a license makes bundles of sense, and would help deal with many of the problems with those foreign sounding names in the press.

I get the hump when thickos point the finger at the PH trade indicating that we are all touts and rapist, but that's nothing to the way drivers with an ethnic background must feel when they are being tarred by the same brush as the scumbags.

It's not right and surely the good folks of TDO are better than that.



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