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Nice big 17in touch screen monitor.....no, I promise I won't touch it while I'm driving (!)

Regulation 109 of the Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986 provides for the use of television sets or other monitors in motor vehicles

109(1) No person shall drive, or cause or permit to be driven, a motor vehicle on a road, if the driver is in such a position as to be able to see, whether directly or by reflection, a television receiving apparatus or other cinematographic apparatus used to display anything other than information:

(a) about the state of the vehicle or its equipment;
(b) about the location of the vehicle and the road on which it is located;
(c) to assist the driver to see the road adjacent to the vehicle; or
(d) to assist the driver to reach his destination.

Regulation 104: Driver's Control

No person shall drive or cause or permit any other person to drive, a motor vehicle on a road if he is in such a position that he cannot have proper control of the vehicle or have a full view of the road and traffic ahead.

So, the driver still needs to ensure that he or she is in proper control of the vehicle even when operating exempt equipment.

http://www.mp3car.com/newbie/44686-the- ... he-uk.html

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It's not bang in the center of my windscreen - I don't need to bend my head to look around my mobile phone to view traffic. When I'm sayings "it's in my eye line", it's in exactly the same position 99% of drivers would place there Tom Tom devices....to the far right-hand side of the windscreen - so I've basically got to move my eye to look at the screen. I think most people have decent peripheral vision as drivers (especially taxi drivers) and it's not uncommon to have screens including Tom Toms / mobiles / data screens to that area of a windscreen. I'm not one of those dicks that places a mobile phone or Tom Tom bang in the center of a windscreen with cables all over and my fluffy dice dangling down from my rear view mirror with (when its the right time of the year), a huge 10 inch illuminated fake Christmas tree stuck on my dash with a hundred lights all around my dash so I've got about a 4 inch square hole to view the road....that isn't me...I am a responsible driver

I just wanted to add that the screen size of the area which is on my phone which shows the back seats is around 1 in square.

I've got an app which can reduce what is viewed on the screen - I've reduced mine so it's black around the area which I'm viewing of 1 in square.

I may upload a picture later to show people what the set up is.

I see it as a Safety issue which the driver is entitled to have, you could sensibly argue that it is "To assist the driver to reach his destination". Imo if you are not recording then it is no different than turning around to look to see what is wrong (we have all had that one) except safer, some would/might argue a different interpretation.

First and foremost put a written request before the LA/Council for this to be allowed, if they turn you down, then inform them that you will use it as a safety implement and that you intend taking legal action against them if they suspend you for having it in your vehicle. Should they then suspend you/fail the vehicle then take them to a "Small Claims Court" costing initially £25 to claim for loss of earnings. My guess is that they will back down as it would open the flood gates to more actions.

I think that a court would agree that it is a safety issue that can only be for the safety of the driver.

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Common sense........is just not that Common.

It is the police that would need to be asked. It is them that would bring a prosecution for using it.

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Grandad,

In Scotland, a prosecution is brought by the Procurator Fiscal. Don't you have a similar thing with the CPS?

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This would most probably be a road traffic offence and would normally be dealt with by way of a fixed penalty charge issued by the police.

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Grandad,

Would one not have to admit the offence, to be dealt with by this method?

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You get issued with "ticket" which is followed up by a notice of intended prosecution. You can either admit the offence and accept the punishment or opt for your day in court.

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Grandad,

I would think that it would take very stupid copper to proceed with a prosecution if you pointed out that it is no different than viewing a "sat nav". I am not being bloody minded.....I just cannot see the problem, especially when there are many other examples allowed.

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Common sense........is just not that Common.

I`ve one like that:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Full-HD-1080P ... 20f9a35ef0
just before I`ve mounted it in my car I`ve asked about rules in my council - there is no regulations about cctv in our council so we must stick to regulations about cctv use. nobody, never even asked about what is this for (I mean police, MOT etc.). in that one you don`t need to open a screen coz it starts recording when you start your engine obviously you can open it anytime to show punters that they should behave . so you need only another sticker on a window and that`s it.

This chap is not recording anything. He is watching the feed live whilst driving the vehicle. the captain has posted the legal jargon that says it is not allowed so it is up to the chap to either accept the law or break it and face the consequences if he gets done.

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Grandad,

I'll ask again.......how is it anything different to a " Sat Nav"?

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It doesn't comply with any of this.
109(1) No person shall drive, or cause or permit to be driven, a motor vehicle on a road, if the driver is in such a position as to be able to see, whether directly or by reflection, a television receiving apparatus or other cinematographic apparatus used to display anything other than information:

(a) about the state of the vehicle or its equipment;
(b) about the location of the vehicle and the road on which it is located;
(c) to assist the driver to see the road adjacent to the vehicle; or
(d) to assist the driver to reach his destination.

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Grandad,