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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 11:40 am 
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What you have had though bud, is a secure paid job that has continually been able to provide for your needs.


This line of work. Although you can graft like a nutter for a fortnight and think you have built up a nice little buffer of wedge.

All gets eaten into and more once the inevitable happens like car repairs. (hired or not) you still need a plated motor while yours is getting fixed.

Soiling the seat. Thats a day lost.

Sickness. (I been proper man flued this week and still had to drag my shaking ass out of bed and into the car)

Slow weeks/days. Waiting for an hour and a half for the job and it being a £2.60 fare before joining the back of the queue again.

Family issues/holidays/parties/social events.

I am lucky to have shaved most of my outlay right down to the wire and I only work 4 days a week. 4 1/2 some weeks. But without some thought I would be grafting the first three plus days before making a crust.

Troskey may come in bull china style. He would be a lot more help if he actually put thibgs in perspective instead of telling you you will die etc.

If you are a single lad and have plenty of free time and a goal to work towards. You can potentially work long and earn well. But squandering profits on rubbish will end up making you aquainted to 7 days a week wages and also make you want it all the time.

Greed takes hold of many a driver.

Comfort is where you need to plan to be after targets are hit and goals are met.


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Noobie72 wrote:
Remember that when some punter shoves a bottle in yer GOB :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:


What job is easy? For the last seven years i've been wiping peoples bottoms, rubbing cream on their genitals, cleaning up sick, collecting sputum and stool samples and been assaulted verbally and physically by confused patients more times than i care to mention. Plus there's all the bullshit from the permanent staff because you're on a lot more than they are. Being a cabbie somehow doesn't sound so bad :-)[/quote]

IN COMPARASION YOU HAVE A POINT AND MY SYMPATHY.......I WISH YER LUCK NOOBIE =D> =D>

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:21 pm 
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westgatelad wrote:
What you have had though bud, is a secure paid job that has continually been able to provide for your needs.


This line of work. Although you can graft like a nutter for a fortnight and think you have built up a nice little buffer of wedge.

All gets eaten into and more once the inevitable happens like car repairs. (hired or not) you still need a plated motor while yours is getting fixed.

Soiling the seat. Thats a day lost.

Sickness. (I been proper man flued this week and still had to drag my shaking ass out of bed and into the car)

Slow weeks/days. Waiting for an hour and a half for the job and it being a £2.60 fare before joining the back of the queue again.

Family issues/holidays/parties/social events.

I am lucky to have shaved most of my outlay right down to the wire and I only work 4 days a week. 4 1/2 some weeks. But without some thought I would be grafting the first three plus days before making a crust.

Troskey may come in bull china style. He would be a lot more help if he actually put thibgs in perspective instead of telling you you will die etc.

If you are a single lad and have plenty of free time and a goal to work towards. You can potentially work long and earn well. But squandering profits on rubbish will end up making you aquainted to 7 days a week wages and also make you want it all the time.

Greed takes hold of many a driver.

Comfort is where you need to plan to be after targets are hit and goals are met.


old trot bull in china shop #-o #-o #-o maybe occasionally oh all right too often #-o maybe its because i care and have cleaned up so often for victims of this industry :cry:

Thats good advice from westgate , but hardly a recommendation for the job is it ................anyway be lucky noobie

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 5:11 pm 
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westgatelad wrote:
What you have had though bud, is a secure paid job that has continually been able to provide for your needs.


This line of work. Although you can graft like a nutter for a fortnight and think you have built up a nice little buffer of wedge.

All gets eaten into and more once the inevitable happens like car repairs. (hired or not) you still need a plated motor while yours is getting fixed.

Soiling the seat. Thats a day lost.

Sickness. (I been proper man flued this week and still had to drag my shaking ass out of bed and into the car)

Slow weeks/days. Waiting for an hour and a half for the job and it being a £2.60 fare before joining the back of the queue again.

Family issues/holidays/parties/social events.



The big account payment by BACS every month from county, the hectic cash on saturday nights, the extra time at xmas and all the tips...

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 12:14 pm 
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I barely slept last night as was going back and forth between nursing and taxi driving, both have pro's and cons (naturally). This is the situation with the nursing agency -

Over the last 2.5 years i've worked for a last minute nursing agency and have regularly been doing 3 sometimes 4 nights a week earning on average £20 ph plus 25p mileage. It goes quiet from time to time but i've saved lots so don't really worry as it's nice to have some time off.
Now for the negatives....all of a sudden the work has plummeted like a dart and i haven't worked for two weeks. There's tons of shifts for nurses but not for lowly healthcare assistants. Also, if i work out how much time i spend traveling back and forth from a shift which if its from Somerset to Hereford, Swindon or Salisbury could easily be six hours(including breaks) and the time spent at home by my laptop waiting for a shift to come in(no guarantees) you can quite easily chop that £20ph in half.

My question is, is it reasonable to speculate I could take home £500pw after the company takes their 50%(car,insurance etc) plus minus the fuel if i work 50-60 hours a week, all nights some of which will be weekends?


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 1:08 pm 
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Noobie72 wrote:
I barely slept last night as was going back and forth between nursing and taxi driving, both have pro's and cons (naturally). This is the situation with the nursing agency -

Over the last 2.5 years i've worked for a last minute nursing agency and have regularly been doing 3 sometimes 4 nights a week earning on average £20 ph plus 25p mileage. It goes quiet from time to time but i've saved lots so don't really worry as it's nice to have some time off.
Now for the negatives....all of a sudden the work has plummeted like a dart and i haven't worked for two weeks. There's tons of shifts for nurses but not for lowly healthcare assistants. Also, if i work out how much time i spend traveling back and forth from a shift which if its from Somerset to Hereford, Swindon or Salisbury could easily be six hours(including breaks) and the time spent at home by my laptop waiting for a shift to come in(no guarantees) you can quite easily chop that £20ph in half.

My question is, is it reasonable to speculate I could take home £500pw after the company takes their 50%(car,insurance etc) plus minus the fuel if i work 50-60 hours a week, all nights some of which will be weekends?


Noobie i havnt worked as a driver for 13 years was a Drivers TU rep for those years, lets see what those currently in the trade say about earnings, but i would guess £500 is pie in the sky #-o Weekends nights whatever ?

Your care work drying up well with this government who knows where thats going ??One things for certain theres countless thousands contemplating becoming PH or Hacks currently and that number will escalate once the Vermin get stuck in! as they will.

In London over 11000 took out PH licences in the last few years no doubt in your area something similar will or has occured?

Be careful with your savings dont speculate on this industry would be my advice. lets hope someone from your area posts up some reliable info ..................b lucky :D

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 1:16 pm 
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Unfortunately mate. No one can give you a guaranteed amount of earnings in this trade.

A driver will lie more often than not about either making a mint or being on the bones of his arse.

Luckily here you will get proper (most of the time) and honest insights.

Variables are area. Office. hours worked. Council. etc.

I took my chance. Followed my instinct.

It aint gonna get me a Ferrari. But it will keep me warm and well fed for the forseeable future.

Pros and cons anywhere. Step out of your comfort zone and take a challenge. What u got to lose?


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 1:48 pm 
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Noobie.

Before you or anyone speculates as to how much you might earn, it will depend as to whether you live in say the bright lights of London, or out in the sticks, oh! and as to whether you think a little bit about the job, or become a rank lemming will also matter. I do not want to know your exact address, but it would be helpful to give you a better answer if you said for instance the City/Village/Town etc that you would be licensed in.

I have seen on here as to what some claim is a good Saturday night in their area! in my case I have exceeded that by a substantial amount, and someone would look at my figures and think - I exceed that by a million miles. It is like property, location, location,location - it matters big time from area to area.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 2:17 pm 
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If your currently doing agency work which your not committed to, why not get your badge - a few hundred £ maybe, give it a go for maybe 4/8 weeks. If it works out for you great, if it doesn't you go back to nursing & you will always have your badge as fall back.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 2:37 pm 
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Thanks to everyone for your help, i'm really glad i joined the forum.

Let me answer a couple questions from the last few posts..

I live nr Taunton, Somerset. The local council, Taunton Deane has an estimated population of 110,000. I would be working for the local big Taxi Firm, Ace Taxis, whose business is 80% phonecalls, according to one of the directors. My plan is to work 50-60 hours a week, all nights, some weekends.

As for Mr Aletank's post, yes i had thought about that but in my heart of hearts i'm kinda hoping that the taxi thing is a goer and i can hang up my latex gloves forever :-)

ps got my medical at the gp's on Friday, perhaps he can have a look at this rash at the same time ;-)


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 2:46 pm 
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Get a couple of Taxis from the company you are thinking of working for and pick the drivers brains whilst doin your journey. 3/4 trips with 3/4 drivers views should help make your mind up.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 2:52 pm 
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aletank wrote:
Get a couple of Taxis from the company you are thinking of working for and pick the drivers brains whilst doin your journey. 3/4 trips with 3/4 drivers views should help make your mind up.


I have spoken to half a dozen drivers already but held back on asking questions about salary, it didn't feel right considering I would be pitching up in their plot, so to speak.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 6:57 pm 
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Whatever you do the average cost of running a taxi is £7 per hour (varies from area to area), the minimum wage is £6.50. So to achieve min. wage you have to AVERAGE a take of £13.50 per hour.

Based on a standard 40 hour week. Work more hours and you'll make more as the costs stay the same (a bit extra on fuel), work less and your average hourly take has to be higher to achieve the same profit. I think most agree roughly the first 25 hours work is just to cover costs, after that it's profit.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 7:17 pm 
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sasha wrote:
Whatever you do the average cost of running a taxi is £7 per hour (varies from area to area), the minimum wage is £6.50. So to achieve min. wage you have to AVERAGE a take of £13.50 per hour.

Based on a standard 40 hour week. Work more hours and you'll make more as the costs stay the same (a bit extra on fuel), work less and your average hourly take has to be higher to achieve the same profit. I think most agree roughly the first 25 hours work is just to cover costs, after that it's profit.


I know there's no easy way of making money these days(unless you're a TV chef)but isn't it a shame that even if you put in 80 hours a week there's still no guarantees of even taking £1000. Just me thinking out loud i guess.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 7:27 pm 
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Noobie72 wrote:
I barely slept last night as was going back and forth between nursing and taxi driving, both have pro's and cons (naturally). This is the situation with the nursing agency -

Why don't you do both to start with, both part-time I might add, and decide for yourself?

Get licensed and drive someone else's car for a while, you will then find out what is achievable.

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