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Well unless he sold it to Zeebra at some stage, he still owns it.

As for being [edited by admin] off, i'm not [edited by admin] off, just annoyed that an official Government report can quote figures from a magazine without checking its validity. I'm equally annoyed that a respected magazine can publish those figures without checking they are correct. Thats what concerns me.

As for the magazine itself I can't comment on its readability, I have not sought to give an opinion on its content, only to say that I believe its mainly made up of Advertisements.

I do believe however that the word Taxi was put in the title to increase circulation. I'll give my opinion on the content when I've read the next edition lol

With regard to Mr Rowlands knowledge concerning illuminated hire signs, I'll just put it on record and say that I know which horse my moneys going on. We will know in July when this case is scheduled to be listed.

Best wishes

John Davies.
Manchester

Yes he has.

I must admit sussex I can't quote any case regarding roof signs although I do believe I browsed over one a couple of weeks ago but I may be mistaken. Which case are you refering to, please enlighten me.

I know Birmingham council took the roof signs off P/H vehicles several years ago and they never went back on.

I was at all the committee meetings when the council first decided to put roof signs on P/H vehicles. It was deemed for safety reasons that they would go on. We objected to it and at one stage contemplated taking the council to court. You are probably aware of the case law dating back several decades which defines what illumination cannot be displayed on a vehicle other than a Taxi that would give the inpression it is a vehicle for hire.

I'll make the effort and dig it out for you some time this week hopefully, in the meantime you send me the details of this case you have mentioned, I would like to read it.

Best wishes

John Davies.
Manchester

I haven't got the full transcripts, but the one I was referring to concerned Mid-Sussex, and was dealt with at Tonbridge Crown Court (I think).

There was another one about a year or so ago, down in the West Country somewhere. Again if my memory serves me right, those wishing to keep the roof-lights won.

I think we go back to the horses for course issue. As a PH roof-light is a condition, it's open to the 400 odd councils to decide for themselves.

My council allows PH roof-signs, as do most in Sussex. It has caused (over the years) quite a bit of friction, but the council's view is that they help 'public safety' in making sure the right customers get into the right car.

It's not a popular view shared with the HC boys, but there is no-way they will change it.

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IDFIMH

In my manor many moons ago (pre SM), the council didn't allow PH roof signs.

The then PH Ass challenged it in the Mags court, and won on the basis that it was advertising, not plying.

Despite a lot of protesting, the council decided not to appeal. Hence the car I'm about to drive has a lovely little roof light.

I do see your point, and it has been mentioned to me more than once, that these roof lights are worth their weight in gold.

I will say no-more.

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IDFIMH

you want it always to suit dont you?
the only reason for roof signs is to ply for hire.

public safety? to achieve that means one code.

by the way seen on the news this morning the taxi boys are flexing thier muscle, go slow against deregulation in the oft proposals including picket of thier Hq in London.

one such city is Gatehead, how does the oft proposal affect them?
indeed how does it affect London?

how many of my brothers and cousains understand those proposals?

didnt mention Mansfield!

Thats correct Tom, Zeebra do now own the magazine but the content as you say is from Mr Rowland. I for one thank you for that information. I havent read the magazine I wonder if Zeebra put that in the credits?

Best wishes

John Davies
Manchester

Manchester Private Hire complaining about the removal of roof signs????

It's breathtaking.

Why the hell should a Private Hire need or want a roof sign when they have to be pre-booked so their customers already know who they are?

It couldn't be because the drivers want to take illegal hires off the street could it?

Get real guys. You wanna be a taxi, go get a taxi drivers brief and a plate?

You wanna be a pseudo cabby, a private hire, then start behaving like one and stop encroaching.

Doesn't seem to difficult to understand, does it?

It's long overdue for one licensing system to put an end to all this nonsense.

Jimbo

Mid Sussex council have never had such a case Sussex! Can you be more specific?

Best wishes.

John Davies
Manchester

Put these date in your diary. June 24th 25th. Thats when Mr Shamin Raja appeals to the crown court against his conviction for displaying an illuminated roof sign on the streets of Manchester. Mr Raja is the fall guy for the Manchester private hire operators association. They already have a bill totaling twenty grand, by the time the Crown court has finished with them they will have another ten grand on top of that. They must really love these illuminated roof signs in Manchester.

I'm laying 10/1 the signs stay off and no 1/100 they go back on.

Best wishes

John Davies
Manchester

Oh yes Mr Yorkie, I do want it both ways.

I want to be able to pick up off the street, and have a big fat roof light telling Joe Public I would love to take him home.

But at present I can't.

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IDFIMH

Alas hardly any, and all the scare and doom mongers amongst the bothers, don't help.

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IDFIMH

John if you go to;

http://www.privatehiretaximonthly.com/p ... index.html

you can read the last years worth.

The only thing is it takes about a week to download each edition.

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IDFIMH

The problem is that some don't.

Why do people get into un-licensed vehicles?

They do because they assume they are for them.

Whereas if they have a big f*** off roof light or door signs, then customers can be assured the vehicle that's taking them home is both the right one, and has been checked.

A lot has been said about the fact that each licensed vehicle has a plate on it.

In all the years of driving, I have never noticed anyone look at my PH plate. They look at my badge, my door sign, and my roof light, but never my plate.

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IDFIMH

Oh dear, old Sussex gets it wrong.

The info I got was via NATPHLEO, and my LO.

I did query the fact that Tonbridge is in Kent, and Mid Sussex is I believe somewhere in the middle of Sussex. But that's what I was told.

It might be worth asking NATPHLEO, although they are pretty useless in giving out any proper info, in my opinion.

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IDFIMH

I have a pound with you John that they stay.

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IDFIMH