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Quite a naive way of looking at it skull if you dont mind me saying so.

If there is enough cabs to do the work what would be the point i creating more shifts and maybe you should speak to those owners tat are struggling to get holiday cover at the moment if there is an oversupply of drivers.

Jack.

p.s. E7's has been taken off the road due to a council cock up, maybe they should just forget these vans and put proper cabs on

Thes clowns are well good at giving it but when the tables are turned they scream like a couple of girls, would love then to complain to the council

Jack.

I would rather speak to the driver's paying the extortionate rentals. Show me how earning less means paying more? Where does a £300 rental come from or a £40,000 plate value for that matter? Tell me why qualified driver's should not have the choice of his own plate without having to pay an artificial plate value, he drives a taxi anyway why not his own?

Oh and spare me the bollix of the trades earning going up even you know that's a pile of pish. Anyone can point to an individual case based on personal circumstances but what we are talking about here is in the greater scheme of things. A bit like Stu posting how much his takings were down in the last three years.

This whole market is a total con and you know it. This is about creating artificial shortages and making driver's believe the grass is greener on the other side.

BTW this has got to be the only trade in the world which will not expand to meet market demand but is more than willing to see that demand met by its competitors, namely the Ph. No demand but the Ph double now that's strange don't you think, probably just a seasonal variation.

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You couldn't "turn the tables on anyone" you are delusional Jack BTW don't forget to post your takings like you said or have you got cold feet the IR does that to some people

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Let’s face it Jack you are on this forum only because of what you have to lose and that means you are scared. You don’t want drivers reading what I’m writing and you don’t like the fact your little world is controlled by the council and what they might do. Dissension in the ranks is not what the council or plate holders want. All of this is dragging on to long, attracting too much attention and guys like you don’t know how long you have before your little empires are lying in tatters.

If you know about recent court cases then you will know the council are going to get humped in the high court. You must also know the timing of the local elections and the change to Proportional Representation (PR). Things are a little wobbly for our Labour run council to say the least and that means de-restriction for the trade.

Rest assured I have no intention of coming back to driving taxis nor do I intent to let the council off the hook, timing is everything as they say.

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no jack try the police then a jaunt to the court for you. defamation!

you cannot say things of that nature and expect to be let of the hook.

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I think your stuffed Jack

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skull wrote



In theory yes, in practice no.

Explain

Let's use 12 hour shifts as an example, 2*1260 taxis = 2520 shifts each vehicle being double shifted. Maybe you would like to tell us how many driver's it would take to fill 2520 shifts Mr. Theory. Then you might want to indulge us with how many qualified taxi driver's there are in Edinburgh. That's how many per cab? Then you can explain how more and more driver's coming through the schools benefits the existing driver's and how much the pay for rentals?

Oh and BTW don't even try and say you have got to take into account how many driver's are leaving the trade if that was the case rentals would be going down not up and so would plate premiums. Owners would be competing for your services and not dictating rentals of £300. Whoever heard of an increase in rentals or plate premiums due to the increased availability of vehicles and shifts? Ross this is where we came in according to your train of thought more means less and less means more.

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Another way of looking at it is that if lots of drivers left the trade then the remaining ones would be taking more, thus the owners could up rentals and leave the drivers back where they were before.

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skull wrote



2520 shifts
3583 drivers
=
1.42 drivers per shift

In theory the holiday relief should get covered no problem. But its not.
Why is that Garry?

How many part timers ?
How many brieff holders who don't drive?
How many single shifted taxis ?
How many brieffs holders at the airport driving ph ?

Because the above information is not available, your figures and mine can only be theory and not fact.

PH
1506 shifts
1861 drivers
=
1.23 drivers per shift

According to your theory, the ph with no restrictions should be increasing to accomodate the number of drivers. But according to the figures they are decreasing, explain that Gary.

Ross Wrote:


That was not the figure Peter Lang gave me but fair enough.



This is bollix Ross you pick one or two cases and this justifies your whole argument, I don’t think so. What you are talking about here is perhaps 2 weeks of the year and a seasonal variation of full time and part-time drivers in different companies. One swallow a summer does not make. (Yes I know ‘presupposition’ I think most will get the point)



So what you are saying is a shortage of driver’s paying higher rentals earning less money while working more hours is actually driving rentals and plate premiums up. So in theory if we had even less drivers and say double the amount of vehicles rentals and plate premiums would increase even further and not the other way around.

You’ve got me this time Ross this makes perfect sense to me. Now I know why rentals and plate premiums have increased over the last 5 years, not enough drivers.

Well that’s cleared that up and here’s me thinking a scarcity value is created with something becoming scarce. No restrictive market here then everyone just loves paying more in a veritable cornucopia of shifts and plates

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In a perfect equation of driver's and shifts and no competition between owners then yes.

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Just for you Ross I know guys in CRT, City and ComCab who pay £300 rentals, £280 is common and over £300 not unheard of and these guys are paying for shifts they don't even work. It's the "I want a driver for seven nights" knowing he can only work 5 or 6". A friend of mine had his rental increased by £40 at the last tariff rise. I quote the owner “if you don't pay it someone else will". He is now thinking about buying in, his current drive had taken him over 2 weeks to find an advertisement in the paper and one response. So much for not enough drivers’s eh Ross.


Face it Ross you see it the way the owners want you to see it. You are constantly looking for praise and reassurance to buoy up your own low self-esteem through a false sense of loyalty to the owner. You are being used through your insecurities Ross. You act like an employee not someone who is self-employed selling on his own self-worth. I do not doubt you are a great driver Ross, reliable, dependable and trustworthy but having a grasp on how this game is played, not a chance. When your owner sells up he will come to you with very lucrative offer probably well over the 45k mark, telling you he is doing you a favour and giving you the first chance to buy. Then absolve from all sin he will stick it on the market looking for the highest bidder. You on the other hand will go around telling everyone what a good guy he was because you got first refusal. Call me a cynic Ross but I think I’m a hell of a lot closer to the truth than you.

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Come on Skull own up you have bought all the tuk-tuks and got the the plates for five bob each .
Interesting idia though could work