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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 3:17 pm 
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Depending on the terms of the booking, he could reasonably engage the meter when he leaves his own front door to valet the car and leave it running all day until he is no longer required. :wink:

That could add up to rather more than he charged for the job.

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skippy41 wrote:
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a driver with a hackney has [tx4] got himself hired for a wedding reception

dont know the cost he as qouted but thinks it up in the hundred plus pounds bracket

which is true

he can only use the meter

or he can price what he likes


He can charge what he likes its a PH arrangement, the cab will be off the road for a wash and polish and possibly ribbons applied it could also be hired all day
I take £200 to £250 for a wedding the sign is removed then washed and polished then out comes the tin flute
most of the weddings I do are an all day affair
If the bride and groom need to go elsewhere after the reception
But after they have gone on goes the sign, and all guests have to pay :D


WRONG. (again, as usual) try the misc. prov act 1976. Skippy please engage brain before operating computer.


Jimbo considering you dont seam to have a blockage between your ears,apart from wax, this is Scotland we are talking about but down there if the contract is negotiated and all parties are happy the agreed price still stands
If a punter should be daft enough to come to you and say I will give you x amount to take me to the next pub over and above the prescribed fare are you going to turn down a nice earner more than likely you would as your a bob short of a ten bob note


Are you really a kangaroo, as per your avatar Mr Skippy, or as is it as I suspect you are actually a blind Bambi?

You seem to have no idea.

Stinky Pete asked a question specific to York. Which was about as far as Bluebeard got in that wierd Australian film by Mel Gibson.

A hack is a hack is always, but always a hack.

And the law states that...well in England and Wales at least.

The exemptions the learned CC refers to surely apply only to Wedding/Funeral limousines only?

But if the hireing takes you out of your district, an agreed fare can apply

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Section 75 1 (c) ?

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Nope, that relates to licensing issues not fare issues.

A hackney is a hackney no matter where he is.

A hackney can only charge more than the authorized council tariff if the destination is outside of the licensing authority's area.

Within the area he can only charge the council set tariff whatever the job. Even if it's a funeral or a wedding.

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So what about hackneys that do private hire work. They charge private hire rates so if the hackney was used for private hire then surely private hire rates would apply and seeing as they are usually less than council set rates it wouldn't matter, obviously on this ocassion the rate would be a fixed PH rate all the HC had to do was put it through the office. I did notice a memo sent to our office from the LA saying that HC's doing PH work were to charge no more than the council rate if the PH rate exceeded it but they had to charge the PH rate if it didn't. So basically the LA were saying that the HC's that did PH work had to charge the cheapest rate.

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a hack may always be a hack but cant take a flag down outside its own area...making it a PHV....

whereas a PHV is a PHV wherever it goes, if prebooked of course, like a hack outsides own area


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So what about hackneys that do private hire work.

A hackney is a hackney no-matter what work it does.

Same as a PH when doing hackney work, it is still a PH. :shock:

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So what about hackneys that do private hire work.

A hackney is a hackney no-matter what work it does.

Same as a PH when doing hackney work, it is still a PH. :shock:


not if you define the difference as public Vs private hire

the hack out of area cant take a hail/flag down (public hire) and has to be pre-booked, the very definition of private hire, damn poachers....


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Sussex wrote:
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So what about hackneys that do private hire work.

A hackney is a hackney no-matter what work it does.

Same as a PH when doing hackney work, it is still a PH. :shock:


I don't believe for 5 mins that any PH would do HC work :^o

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toots wrote:
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So what about hackneys that do private hire work.

A hackney is a hackney no-matter what work it does.

Same as a PH when doing hackney work, it is still a PH. :shock:


I don't believe for 5 mins that any PH would do HC work :^o


the WORK is carrying pasengers for hire/reward, the DIFFERENCE is what we all know....and its negligible in the eyes of the public


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Sussex wrote:
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Section 75 1 (c) ?

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Nope, that relates to licensing issues not fare issues.

A hackney is a hackney no matter where he is.

A hackney can only charge more than the authorized council tariff if the destination is outside of the licensing authority's area.

Within the area he can only charge the council set tariff whatever the job. Even if it's a funeral or a wedding.


Thought as much to be honest....surprised that section of the act wasnt as clear as for vehicles used for funerals, in my experience the consequences are much the same anyway, although perhaps weddings are more of a gradual death. :lol:

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captain cab wrote:
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Section 75 1 (c) ?

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Nope, that relates to licensing issues not fare issues.

A hackney is a hackney no matter where he is.

A hackney can only charge more than the authorized council tariff if the destination is outside of the licensing authority's area.

Within the area he can only charge the council set tariff whatever the job. Even if it's a funeral or a wedding.


Thought as much to be honest....surprised that section of the act wasnt as clear as for vehicles used for funerals, in my experience the consequences are much the same anyway, although perhaps weddings are more of a gradual death. :lol:

CC


Awwwh never mind, but, you know they say the difinition of Manogamy and Bigamy is the same ' havin a wife too many' :lol:

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if the HC wedding booking starts outside his native area then he can charge what he likes


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wannabeeahack wrote:
the hack out of area cant take a hail/flag down (public hire) and has to be pre-booked,

I'm grateful for the reminder. :roll:

The fact that a hackney can't take work, that hasn't been pre-booked, outside of his licensing area doesn't stop him being a hackney.

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Sussex wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
the hack out of area cant take a hail/flag down (public hire) and has to be pre-booked,

I'm grateful for the reminder. :roll:

The fact that a hackney can't take work, that hasn't been pre-booked, outside of his licensing area doesn't stop him being a hackney.


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wannabeeahack wrote:
whats a retired race horse?



Kennomeat?

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