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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 12:09 am 
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I don't know where you get they are self employed from,


the hmrc usually :lol:

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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 9:30 am 
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sorry to take issue with your view on maintenance, if the car fails the MoT with a list of defects, it isn't being maintained! the MoT should NOT be used as a routine safety check to find out what wants doing!


One of the issues with the car that it failed on was that it had a worn ball joint. Now I know nothing about cars but my partner / mechanic says that unless he is made aware of noises or the like a worn ball joint is not something that is going to be covered by a service or a general check over.

And he's a mechanic, how does the average PH driver possibly find out about these things other than at an MOT. :?: :?: :?:

Anyone doing a safety check on a car will get someone to rock the steering while they look for play on ball joints. It's not rocket science. Play on ball joints does not always result in a noise...except when they pop out going round a corner and your car kills someone. Get a trained mechanic to inspect the cars regularly not a mate who thinks he knows what he's doing..


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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 12:35 pm 
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Get a trained mechanic to inspect the cars regularly not a mate who thinks he knows what he's doing..

He's not a mate, he owns the business with me & he used to run a garage.
Facts before speak eh!


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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 12:38 pm 
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I aint on about them i'm on about you hiring them on a lie and only doing so so you can drag the fares down to bus levels,

What lie did I hire them on?
How am I dragging our fares down, we haven't put them up in 2 years as the circuit can't take it, likewise we haven't bput our dues up for 2 years.

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an if that isnt the case why dont you employ local drivers or is there a shortage of unemployed people in your area

Oh believe me I try, but at £400 to get through the PH knowledge, plus the need of a 7 year or under car, plus the fact you need to work a 50 - 60 hrs week, tends to put a lot of folk off. We get around 1/7 local applicants who apply.


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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 2:16 pm 
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How am I dragging our fares down, we haven't put them up in 2 years as the circuit can't take it, likewise we haven't bput our dues up for 2 years.


so you want easier car tests, easier knowledge tests, access to more drivers (who arent UK born) but the circuit is at breaking point?...


ho hum...

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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 2:17 pm 
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Tico wrote:
ref Phaeton

beauty

plus sides

comfort

hand built to bentley standards in glass factory in wolfsburg

lwb for ultimate comfort

looks like a boardroom inside

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down sides

sit down before i start

tyres are £200 each

3.0 TDi does 20mpg urban

now the worst of it

4x shock absorbers = £5000 they are air shocks btw

hazard warning switch is part of the media center = £3000

£400 pa road tax

still an excuse to whip it out and rub hard though i wood love one myself


what about a Maybach?

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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 2:51 pm 
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SteveB69 wrote:
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sorry to take issue with your view on maintenance, if the car fails the MoT with a list of defects, it isn't being maintained! the MoT should NOT be used as a routine safety check to find out what wants doing!


One of the issues with the car that it failed on was that it had a worn ball joint. Now I know nothing about cars but my partner / mechanic says that unless he is made aware of noises or the like a worn ball joint is not something that is going to be covered by a service or a general check over.

And he's a mechanic, how does the average PH driver possibly find out about these things other than at an MOT. :?: :?: :?:



your mechaninc couldn't spot a worn ball joint?

do you even check the cars ? I get the impression that your idea of maintenance is throw some oil and filters at it every now and again give it a wash and that's it.


surely to god you have the car up on a ramp every 4/6 weeks giving it a thorough checkover and a worn ball joint would be something I would expect even a 1st year apprentice to be able to pick up on let alone anyone daring to call themselves a mechanic.

if your presenting a car for testing and coming away with a list of faults then I would say your company shouldn't be allowed to operate that vehicle as a Taxi/PH its people doing this that is destroying any credibility our trade has

and as for finding out about faults, any decent taxi or PH driver will have a basic amount of mechanical knowledge I have my vehicle up in the air every month for a thorough checkover and do the topside checks daily, brakes,tyres, lights fluids etc etc.

perhaps if your drivers are abusing their rentals you should introduce a daily check sheet for each vehicle and insist that they are filled in properly by the drivers..


heres the one I use if your interested http://thephda.co.uk/?page_id=57

its simple basic commonsense checks that keep on top of any minor issues. if you collect the completed sheets in along with your weigh ins you have a general idea of what state your cars are in. i'd also suggest getting your cars in periodically and getting a qualified mechanic to check them over. bear in mind that the tests you are failing are telling the council you cant even be bothered to check the cars over before presenting them, no wonder the council are concerned if that's how you present them for inspection, what state are they in the rest of the time.


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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 2:57 pm 
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I find myself nodding in agreement with that last post.

I'm also in the bus industry, and we HAVE to have a preventative maintenance scheme; a safety check every 6-8 weeks, with paperwork to prove it's done. If VOSA visit and there's anyhitng amiss, it could mean a Public Inquiry; the result of that could mean being put out of business.

Sorry, your business partner may have run a garage before, but to suggest he can't spot a worn ball joint is complete tosh. your cars should NOT fail an annual test with a list of defects.


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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 2:59 pm 
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roythebus wrote:
I find myself nodding in agreement with that last post.

I'm also in the bus industry, and we HAVE to have a preventative maintenance scheme; a safety check every 6-8 weeks, with paperwork to prove it's done. If VOSA visit and there's anyhitng amiss, it could mean a Public Inquiry; the result of that could mean being put out of business.

Sorry, your business partner may have run a garage before, but to suggest he can't spot a worn ball joint is complete tosh. your cars should NOT fail an annual test with a list of defects.



spot on Roy, no taxi or PH should be failing with a list of faults, I can understand missing something minor but to be coming back with a vehicle with multiple problems is poor form


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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 3:23 pm 
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surely to god you have the car up on a ramp every 4/6 weeks giving it a thorough checkover and a worn ball joint would be something I would expect even a 1st year apprentice to be able to pick up on let alone anyone daring to call themselves a mechanic.

On a ramp, ha ha ha ha, how many PH drivers do you think get their cars checked over over than where there is a fault.
Get real.


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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 5:19 pm 
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SteveB69 wrote:
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I aint on about them i'm on about you hiring them on a lie and only doing so so you can drag the fares down to bus levels,

What lie did I hire them on?
How am I dragging our fares down, we haven't put them up in 2 years as the circuit can't take it, likewise we haven't bput our dues up for 2 years.

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an if that isnt the case why dont you employ local drivers or is there a shortage of unemployed people in your area

Oh believe me I try, but at £400 to get through the PH knowledge, plus the need of a 7 year or under car, plus the fact you need to work a 50 - 60 hrs week, tends to put a lot of folk off. We get around 1/7 local applicants who apply.



The lie is come to the UK and earn a grand a week because people like you like to put £2k sheds on and have them doing 17 hour days just so you can get your £300 pw out of a car,

The £400 has nothing to do with it it's the same for HGV and worse tbh it's all to do with not wanting to drive like an F1 driver for £2.50 a job and listen to some ungrateful knob moaning about it being only £2.40 yesterday etc,

People like yourself are the modern day whip crackers/sweat shop owners and you make sure you get people to work for you who you know there is little chance they will open their mouths and go against you as I see it local all the time and be honest it's not you can't get a local it's you don't really want one do you.


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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 5:49 pm 
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£10K for that :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: Bargain.[/quote]

Yep, cost 43k new, on a 07 plate and has only done 66k and has full VW service history and is immaculate! Even has TV! As I have said before might be the biggest mistake I have ever made, but what the hell, if it is, I can always sell it!
At least the last few years of my cabbing life will be in the ultimate comfort! :D :D :D[/quote]


To right they are a cracking motor, any inside pics??[/quote]
Hi Nidge, if you go on Sovereigncars it is still listed on there with all the pics!
It seems to me that there is a lot of green eyes out there, the car is hand built, is much the same as the Bentley Continental; GT and the Audi A8 and Q7, yes, IF they go wrong it can be expensive but they generally are very reliable and a top of the range Mondeo is over 23k, I know what I would rather have! :) :) that's 13k to spend before I get anywhere near Mondeo prices!
Also if people care to check, VW are very good at replacing things like the suspension units if they go wrong even when cars are well out of warranty, usually with some contribution from the owner, they even have a dedicated phone line to VW for Phaeton owners!! :D :D

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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 5:52 pm 
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Tico wrote:


The lie is come to the UK and earn a grand a week because people like you like to put £2k sheds on and have them doing 17 hour days just so you can get your £300 pw out of a car,

The £400 has nothing to do with it it's the same for HGV and worse tbh it's all to do with not wanting to drive like an F1 driver for £2.50 a job and listen to some ungrateful knob moaning about it being only £2.40 yesterday etc,

People like yourself are the modern day whip crackers/sweat shop owners and you make sure you get people to work for you who you know there is little chance they will open their mouths and go against you as I see it local all the time and be honest it's not you can't get a local it's you don't really want one do you.


I had a feeling someone would explode :lol:

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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 5:57 pm 
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Tico wrote:
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I aint on about them i'm on about you hiring them on a lie and only doing so so you can drag the fares down to bus levels,

What lie did I hire them on?
How am I dragging our fares down, we haven't put them up in 2 years as the circuit can't take it, likewise we haven't bput our dues up for 2 years.

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an if that isnt the case why dont you employ local drivers or is there a shortage of unemployed people in your area

Oh believe me I try, but at £400 to get through the PH knowledge, plus the need of a 7 year or under car, plus the fact you need to work a 50 - 60 hrs week, tends to put a lot of folk off. We get around 1/7 local applicants who apply.


The lie is come to the UK and earn a grand a week because people like you like to put £2k sheds on and have them doing 17 hour days just so you can get your £300 pw out of a car,

Yeah right Tico, you know all about how I run my business, we charge £85 per week to jockey a car + insurance. The driver gets that car 24/7. They pay the same dues as all other drivers to work on circuit.
I make little if any profit from the rented car after tax, mot, private hire tests, repairs, maintenance etc.
Work it out but if you can't be constructive in your arguments there is no point discussing with you.


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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 6:11 pm 
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SteveB69 wrote:
we charge £85 per week to jockey a car + insurance. The driver gets that car 24/7. They pay the same dues as all other drivers to work on circuit.
I make little if any profit from the rented car after tax, mot, private hire tests, repairs, maintenance etc.
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so basically your skimping on your maintenance to put a few quid in your own pocket.

£85 a week is not sustainable unless your putting badly maintained death traps on the road (oh wait that's exactly what your doing)

rates around these parts vary from £140 pw for a insured Shed of an Octavia that only has a year or 2 left in service to £170-200 for a split new Octavia/Exeo to the high side of that which is a WAV or 6 Seater insured.


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