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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 11:55 pm 
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Anyhoo if you are not grooming under age children on the internet you've feck all to worry about =D> =D> =D>


Weren't they grooming a hairy-arsed bloke from Nuneaton?


Do you really think a Pedo would knowingly groom a hairy-arsed bloke from Nuneaton? #-o #-o #-o #-o

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 11:58 pm 
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I believe that what he does is a good thing providing he follows the rules that have been laid down by the police, that he doesn't reveal identities until he is absolutely certain he is right, doesn't entrap anybody or lead them on and doesn't do what some other groups are doing. He is no angel and he's far from perfect he has also got it wrong on occasion. This link explains the dangers of what he does and includes the actions of other groups that also do this kind of thing

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013 ... ine-police

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I believe that what he does is a good thing providing he follows the rules that have been laid down by the police, that he doesn't reveal identities until he is absolutely certain he is right, doesn't entrap anybody or lead them on and doesn't do what some other groups are doing. He is no angel and he's far from perfect he has also got it wrong on occasion. This link explains the dangers of what he does and includes the actions of other groups that also do this kind of thing

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013 ... ine-police


oh so his actions have led to 2 suicides?

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Anyhoo if you are not grooming under age children on the internet you've feck all to worry about =D> =D> =D>


Weren't they grooming a hairy-arsed bloke from Nuneaton?


Do you really think a Pedo would knowingly groom a hairy-arsed bloke from Nuneaton? #-o #-o #-o #-o


Whatever floats their boat :badgrin:

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 12:06 am 
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I believe that what he does is a good thing providing he follows the rules that have been laid down by the police, that he doesn't reveal identities until he is absolutely certain he is right, doesn't entrap anybody or lead them on and doesn't do what some other groups are doing. He is no angel and he's far from perfect he has also got it wrong on occasion. This link explains the dangers of what he does and includes the actions of other groups that also do this kind of thing

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013 ... ine-police


Listen, if you go on these sites it is easy to make it perfectly clear than you are not interested in under aged children in anyway and if you have any doubt, you stop chatting-simples.

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Skull wrote:
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I believe that what he does is a good thing providing he follows the rules that have been laid down by the police, that he doesn't reveal identities until he is absolutely certain he is right, doesn't entrap anybody or lead them on and doesn't do what some other groups are doing. He is no angel and he's far from perfect he has also got it wrong on occasion. This link explains the dangers of what he does and includes the actions of other groups that also do this kind of thing

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013 ... ine-police


Listen, if you go on these sites it is easy to make it perfectly clear than you are not interested in under aged children in anyway and if you have any doubt, you stop chatting-simples.

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I understand what you're saying, but, not all people are that bright and in one case if you read it the guy says he wasn't told until he was a the meeting place that the person he was meeting was under age and if this is true his life is ruined for something he didn't do. All I am saying is they have to be 100% certain that the person they are meeting fully understands before they meet that the person they are meeting is under age. It's not a big ask really is it. Stinson has had advice from the police about what he can and can't do and seems to have listened but he is not alone in this activity.

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You can say what you like but these are not just innocent conversation. It's pretty obvious to anyone reading these messages, what's in the mind of the Pedo. :evil:

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Skull wrote:
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I believe that what he does is a good thing providing he follows the rules that have been laid down by the police, that he doesn't reveal identities until he is absolutely certain he is right, doesn't entrap anybody or lead them on and doesn't do what some other groups are doing. He is no angel and he's far from perfect he has also got it wrong on occasion. This link explains the dangers of what he does and includes the actions of other groups that also do this kind of thing

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013 ... ine-police


Listen, if you go on these sites it is easy to make it perfectly clear than you are not interested in under aged children in anyway and if you have any doubt, you stop chatting-simples.

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that's true, but what if the guy on the end of the keyboard says they are a 18 years old girl and agrees to meet you in a public place like costa coffee - then a few minutes before the meet send you a text saying they are 15 years old - and a few blokes with cameras come along calling to a child molester (in costa coffee) and puts your face and personal details all over the internet? like what was alleged??

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 12:15 am 
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I believe that what he does is a good thing providing he follows the rules that have been laid down by the police, that he doesn't reveal identities until he is absolutely certain he is right, doesn't entrap anybody or lead them on and doesn't do what some other groups are doing. He is no angel and he's far from perfect he has also got it wrong on occasion. This link explains the dangers of what he does and includes the actions of other groups that also do this kind of thing

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013 ... ine-police


Listen, if you go on these sites it is easy to make it perfectly clear than you are not interested in under aged children in anyway and if you have any doubt, you stop chatting-simples.

:-|


I understand what you're saying, but, not all people are that bright and in one case if you read it the guy says he wasn't told until he was a the meeting place that the person he was meeting was under age and if this is true his life is ruined for something he didn't do. All I am saying is they have to be 100% certain that the person they are meeting fully understands before they meet that the person they are meeting is under age. It's not a big ask really is it. Stinson has had advice from the police about what he can and can't do and seems to have listened but he is not alone in this activity.


Yeah and there are two sides to every story and you would hope that these guys are getting it right but if they have it wrong, then they are the ones who should be prosecuted and to the full extent of the law. :-|

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You can say what you like but these are not just innocent conversation. It's pretty obvious to anyone reading these messages, what's in the mind of the Pedo. :evil:


You're quite right about the conversations, but, I was referring to the incident that CC has now referred to. If they are going to do this they must be certain and not underhanded at all.

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I believe that what he does is a good thing providing he follows the rules that have been laid down by the police, that he doesn't reveal identities until he is absolutely certain he is right, doesn't entrap anybody or lead them on and doesn't do what some other groups are doing. He is no angel and he's far from perfect he has also got it wrong on occasion. This link explains the dangers of what he does and includes the actions of other groups that also do this kind of thing

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013 ... ine-police


Listen, if you go on these sites it is easy to make it perfectly clear than you are not interested in under aged children in anyway and if you have any doubt, you stop chatting-simples.

:-|


that's true, but what if the guy on the end of the keyboard says they are a 18 years old girl and agrees to meet you in a public place like costa coffee - then a few minutes before the meet send you a text saying they are 15 years old - and a few blokes with cameras come along calling to a child molester (in costa coffee) and puts your face and personal details all over the internet? like what was alleged??


Yeah but did that really happen and why weren't they prosecuted? I really doubt, if it was that simple, the police wouldn't have done so. :-|

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Detective Inspector Chris Hanson, of the West Midlands police public protection unit, said Stinson's video sting on Sam had been thoroughly investigated by specialist child abuse investigation officers who also made their own extensive inquiries and found no evidence of any sexual offences. But Sam said that came too late to prevent social workers asking him to move away from his children temporarily and his life being threatened by strangers.


This is part of the same story.

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You can say what you like but these are not just innocent conversation. It's pretty obvious to anyone reading these messages, what's in the mind of the Pedo. :evil:


You're quite right about the conversations, but, I was referring to the incident that CC has now referred to. If they are going to do this they must be certain and not underhanded at all.


Yeah I agree and lock them up if they ruin someone’s life by getting it wrong. Quite honestly, if you don't go down the road of chatting to what might be an underage child you has got feck all to worry about. :-|

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Yeah but did that really happen and why weren't they prosecuted? I really doubt, if it was that simple, the police wouldn't have done so. :-|


yeah, I mean, what's the blokes innocent Mrs attempted suicide got to do with any of this, oh and the bricks through the window provided air conditioning I guess too

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Detective Inspector Chris Hanson, of the West Midlands police public protection unit, said Stinson's video sting on Sam had been thoroughly investigated by specialist child abuse investigation officers who also made their own extensive inquiries and found no evidence of any sexual offences. But Sam said that came too late to prevent social workers asking him to move away from his children temporarily and his life being threatened by strangers.


This is part of the same story.


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found no evidence of any sexual offences.


Okay and did you see the guy on the channel 4 program who walked away and wasn't charged or prosecuted?

No evidence of sexual offences doesn't mean that it never happened only that it couldn't be proven. :-|

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