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GA, my reference to your empire building was based on your -follow me, and I will lead you to the Promised Land routine.

You will do almost anything to ingratiate yourself with your local authority. You seize at almost any opportunity to beat on fellow cabbies. You see yourself as judge, jury, and executioner. You rush to grab the moral high. You look to empower yourself at the expense of others. And your well worn rhetoric has been used to further the cause of many a megalomaniac throughout the ages. You are not new to the taxi trade GA, far from it.



Could you please substanciate those allegations.

Show me clear evidence to back up your claims or remove the posts.

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Show me clear evidence to back up your claims or remove the posts.

B. Lucky :D


No can do - your boss is complaining about censorship on his forum, so presumably he wouldn't like us to pander to your complaint.

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the right people driving the right number of vehicles


So if you've got the right people in the trade, why would you want to control whether or not they run their own vehicle, other than to exploit them or to give you the satisfaction of playing God?

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GA

Just so as you know, after reading and following the above thread, you come across as being realistic and sensible and obviously have the interest of the trade in your area at heart, but in my opinion you might as well be talking to a brick wall, (and would probably get more sense out of it), than the three amigos. The common denominator apart from the mentality of a five year old is that they do not want any type of system that would hinder their 'final solution' (ref. third reich).

Nitpicking every last word is a sign of their own desperation and their inability to grasp the reality of the real world. They are perfect examples of the singular individuals we have throughout the trade that like to think they can manipulate others with promises of equality, but failing at the same time in educating them in the joys of bankruptcy. It's a case of the blind leading the blind.

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Spoken like a true taxi baron :lol:

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Show me clear evidence to back up your claims or remove the posts.

B. Lucky :D


No can do - your boss is complaining about censorship on his forum, so presumably he wouldn't like us to pander to your complaint.


Wor lass is my boss Dusty ............... no fooker else.

You cannot debate the issues anyway so whats the point.

B. Lucky :D

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the right people driving the right number of vehicles


So if you've got the right people in the trade, why would you want to control whether or not they run their own vehicle, other than to exploit them or to give you the satisfaction of playing God?


OK lets spell this out ................. because your blatantly to thick or stupid to understand.

THE RIGHT PEOPLE WILL NIETHER JOIN OR INVEST IN A TRADE WHERE THERE IS NO RETURN ON THEIR INVESTMENT.

THIS IS BUSINESS ............... BUSINESSES NEED TO BE PROFESSIONAL OR THEY FAIL ............... BUSINESSES NEED TO MAKE A PROFIT.

You still seem to think that somehow you are owed a living ................. you still seem to think that you have the right to do whatever you want, solely on the basis that someone else can do it.

What are your quality controls .................. what are YOUR policies ................. how would you change things.

I can guess your answer will be based around allowing someone else to make the suggestions so you can ridicule them, allow someone else to put in the effort so that you can point and snigger like a naughty schoolboy encouraging your bully mates to join in with you to give you a sense of power yourself possibly if not probably because you are inadequate as a man.

You consistently make non-committed responses ...................... you join no real cause ...................... your a man without honour.

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Just so as you know, after reading and following the above thread, you come across as being realistic and sensible and obviously have the interest of the trade in your area at heart, but in my opinion you might as well be talking to a brick wall, (and would probably get more sense out of it), than the three amigos. The common denominator apart from the mentality of a five year old is that they do not want any type of system that would hinder their 'final solution' (ref. third reich).

Nitpicking every last word is a sign of their own desperation and their inability to grasp the reality of the real world. They are perfect examples of the singular individuals we have throughout the trade that like to think they can manipulate others with promises of equality, but failing at the same time in educating them in the joys of bankruptcy. It's a case of the blind leading the blind.


They just want to be like me ........................... and after all who can blame them.

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GA

Just so as you know, after reading and following the above thread, you come across as being realistic and sensible and obviously have the interest of the trade in your area at heart, but in my opinion you might as well be talking to a brick wall, (and would probably get more sense out of it), than the three amigos. The common denominator apart from the mentality of a five year old is that they do not want any type of system that would hinder their 'final solution' (ref. third reich).


I was under the impression Gateshead was a deregulated authority, like the majority of other authorities in England and Wales, so how can you blame the situation in Gateshead on TDO? In fact GA has already stated that he is the man that is practically responsible for the state of the Taxi trade in Gateshead? Admittedly, removal of restrictions wasn't down to him and it certainly wasn't down to TDO so its a bit rich trying to blame the ills of the Taxi trade in Gateshead or anywhere else for that matter on TDO?

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Nitpicking every last word is a sign of their own desperation and their inability to grasp the reality of the real world.


I don't know what you mean by "nitpicking" but Accuracy is the word, not nitpicking. If someone misquotes another, then there are only two possible reasons for doing so, either it was a mistake or it was intentional. Perhaps you have an example?

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They are perfect examples of the singular individuals we have throughout the trade that like to think they can manipulate others with promises of equality


To redress the balance of equality, first there must be inequality and I must admit your very statement gives the impression that you believe there is an inequality? Considering over 70% of local authorities practice a form of equality when it comes to issuing taxi licenses then it would appear that the inequality you talk about only exists in a minority of authorities and Gateshead isn't one of them.

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but failing at the same time in educating them in the joys of bankruptcy. It's a case of the blind leading the blind.


If you start off with an authority that has no cabs and it practices a policy of equality as you put it, who's fault is it if a person decides to own and drive a cab then fails to make a living? Are you going to blame the council for having an open policy or do you blame the individual for his own failed decision making. You seem to think the council owes you a living when in fact they owe you nothing.

However, I suppose most of us see where you are coming from but the emphasis should not be on restricting vehicles the emphasis should be on restricting drivers through quality controls. Which at the moment are totally inadequate. I don't suppose stringent driver quality controls will suit those people who have no intention of driving their own cab but it will certainly place the emphasis of control on those that do drive a cab?

I believe, that only when this taxi trade is rid of the inequality you allude to, will it rise like a phoenix and become all powerful. It certainly won't happen in my life time but it might in yours?

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Wor lass is my boss Dusty ............... no fooker else.

Well she had best tell the OAP. :D

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So anyway....

As I was saying the NTA are bringing in fabulous deals for their members :D

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If you start off with an authority that has no cabs and it practices a policy of equality as you put it, who's fault is it if a person decides to own and drive a cab then fails to make a living? Are you going to blame the council for having an open policy or do you blame the individual for his own failed decision making. You seem to think the council owes you a living when in fact they owe you nothing.

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The real problem is that the pro-deregulation campaigners are insistent that the financial benefits of deregulation will allow both existing and new drivers to make significantly more money if the councils removed quantity controls.

That said, more should definitely be done to ensure that people are given the correct information before entering the trade for the first time.

I have seen drivers come into the trade after it was suggested that earnings potential of £1000 a week was achievable, when in practice potential takings don't come close to reaching that level.

There needs to be proper and honest access to information, there are many more things to consider than whether or not those renting should be able to own the vehicle they drive .................. you are a keen statistician JD, maybe you could furnish us all with the number of people still renting HC vehicles after deregulation elsewhere cause I can tell you that up here the same people are renting from the same people, the opportunity to own their own vehicle is not an option whether it is available to them or not.

I do however agree that no-one should owe any licensee a living with regard HC .............. however if a new driver were to have to drive PH then the money paid to the operator to be provided with work should come with a guarantee, of sorts, that if the hours are put in any potential earnings discussed are achievable.

The bottom line here is that the trade needs to become professional, and the only way to do that is through proper education.

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OK lets spell this out ................. because your blatantly to thick or stupid to understand.



OK, it's 'let's' not 'lets', it's 'you're' not 'your' and it's 'too' not 'to'. [-(

As for the rest, I'm obviously too thick or stupid to understand. :-s

But what's the difference between thick and stupid? #-o

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OK Mick, I've been making the case for quality controls from day one on taxi forums (about half a dozen years ago now) and I don't think I can be any clearer on my stance on quantity controls, so foam at the mouth if you want, but I don't see any point in replying to your posts in depth, because we've been there a squillion times before.

I find your gibes at my personal abilities a tad ironic, but I'll resist the temptation to be insulting in return.

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OK Mick, I've been making the case for quality controls from day one on taxi forums (about half a dozen years ago now) and I don't think I can be any clearer on my stance on quantity controls, so foam at the mouth if you want, but I don't see any point in replying to your posts in depth, because we've been there a squillion times before.

I find your gibes at my personal abilities a tad ironic, but I'll resist the temptation to be insulting in return.


But that aside

Those nice chaps at the NTA getting their members discounted vehicles and insurance. :wink:

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