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 Post subject: Re: i do
PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:24 am 
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Yes me, and over 100 other drivers in preston do it may not be inportent to you. but it is to us.

and by the way i did not see any NTA AT Stockport to night GMB WAS THERE MTOA there were was NTA to support stockport one of your members.


Were the NTA asked?

Manchester TOA and the GMB were there because they would I suggest have a vested interest?

Regarding your first comment, the 100 other drivers arent NTA members, although you possibly havent told them that?

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told them what they do need to pay any more at all ho yes i have i have all i need to know is what do they want me to do with the money which should have been paid this year. besaid you got paid for preston last year £200 was it some one sent you. for the PHCA

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told them what they do need to pay any more at all ho yes i have i have all i need to know is what do they want me to do with the money which should have been paid this year. besaid you got paid for preston last year £200 was it some one sent you. for the PHCA


really.....I take it maths aint your strongpoint either?

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 Post subject: Re: i do
PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:38 am 
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told them what they do need to pay any more at all ho yes i have i have all i need to know is what do they want me to do with the money which should have been paid this year. besaid you got paid for preston last year £200 was it some one sent you. for the PHCA


really.....I take it maths aint your strongpoint either?

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no put i do know how meny drivers i have. and you sent the e-mail, i have more them 100 but not saying how meny, but when i put phca + there members = them who are not in any. Try again

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 Post subject: Re: i do
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no put i do know how meny drivers i have. and you sent the e-mail, i have more them 100 but not saying how meny, but when i put phca + there members = them who are not in any. Try again


I am purplexed by this, about 99.9% of associations affiliate.....the NTA dont really do individuals, although there are a couple of exceptions.......do your affiliates in Preston, Blackburn, Bury, Bolton and Burnley know they arent members of the NTA yet, or do I need to dedicate column inches about it?

Would hate to think they gave you £20 for nothing :wink:

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Charlie.. takes this whichever way you want but it is meant with the best intentions.
you seem to be stating that you collected money from drivers who thought they were paying to belong to the NTA. and now you're saying you're not going to pay that money across to the NTA.... fraud is a police matter..... so think before you post.

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 Post subject: Re: i do
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no put i do know how meny drivers i have. and you sent the e-mail, i have more them 100 but not saying how meny, but when i put phca + there members = them who are not in any. Try again
I am purplexed by this, about 99.9% of associations affiliate.....the NTA dont really do individuals, although there are a couple of exceptions.......do your affiliates in Preston, Blackburn, Bury, Bolton and Burnley know they arent members of the NTA yet, or do I need to dedicate column inches about it? Would hate to think they gave you £20 for nothing  :wink:

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WELL IT COME TO US ALL OVER TIME,  NOW IF YOU ASK IF THEY WANT TO BE MEMBERS OF THE NTA AT £20 PER PLATE. THE FRIST THING THAT IS ASKED WHAT DO I GET FOR THAT. I SEE WERE YOU ARE GOING WITH IS.

yet bury was told to day blackburn never even asked the one that was a members if they pay they pay you but they have just lost most of there members to me, and will not be paying to the NTA NOW COUSE YOU HAVE PUT A STOP TO THAT, WELL WHAT CAN I SAY YOU DID NOT GET PAID FROM THE BTDA FOR TWO YEARS, I PAID FOR MY MEMBERS IN BOLTON, BURNLEY, NEVER ASKED THEM DONT NEED TO NOT PAYING ANYTHING, PRESTON DID PAY AT END OF LAST YEARS AS YOU WERE TOLD BY ME JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT THEY WISH ME TO DO WITH THE MONEY BUT I CAN TELL YOU THIS IT WILL NOT NOW GO TO YOU WILL IT YOU HAVE SEEN TO THAT.

BUT IF YOU NEED TO WAST TIME DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO.

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 Post subject: Re: i do
PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:12 am 
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WELL IT COME TO US ALL OVER TIME,  NOW IF YOU ASK IF THEY WANT TO BE MEMBERS OF THE NTA AT £20 PER PLATE. THE FRIST THING THAT IS ASKED WHAT DO I GET FOR THAT. I SEE WERE YOU ARE GOING WITH IS.

yet bury was told to day blackburn never even asked the one that was a members if they pay they pay you but they have just lost most of there members to me, and will not be paying to the NTA NOW COUSE YOU HAVE PUT A STOP TO THAT, WELL WHAT CAN I SAY YOU DID NOT GET PAID FROM THE BTDA FOR TWO YEARS, I PAID FOR MY MEMBERS IN BOLTON, BURNLEY, NEVER ASKED THEM DONT NEED TO NOT PAYING ANYTHING, PRESTON DID PAY AT END OF LAST YEARS AS YOU WERE TOLD BY ME JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT THEY WISH ME TO DO WITH THE MONEY BUT I CAN TELL YOU THIS IT WILL NOT NOW GO TO YOU WILL IT YOU HAVE SEEN TO THAT.

BUT IF YOU NEED TO WAST TIME DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO.


Do you do a version in English?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:21 am 
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WELL IT COME TO US ALL OVER TIME,  NOW IF YOU ASK IF THEY WANT TO BE MEMBERS OF THE NTA AT £20 PER PLATE. THE FRIST THING THAT IS ASKED WHAT DO I GET FOR THAT. I SEE WERE YOU ARE GOING WITH IS.

yet bury was told to day blackburn never even asked the one that was a members if they pay they pay you but they have just lost most of there members to me, and will not be paying to the NTA NOW COUSE YOU HAVE PUT A STOP TO THAT, WELL WHAT CAN I SAY YOU DID NOT GET PAID FROM THE BTDA FOR TWO YEARS, I PAID FOR MY MEMBERS IN BOLTON, BURNLEY, NEVER ASKED THEM DONT NEED TO NOT PAYING ANYTHING, PRESTON DID PAY AT END OF LAST YEARS AS YOU WERE TOLD BY ME JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT THEY WISH ME TO DO WITH THE MONEY BUT I CAN TELL YOU THIS IT WILL NOT NOW GO TO YOU WILL IT YOU HAVE SEEN TO THAT.

BUT IF YOU NEED TO WAST TIME DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO.


Are you saying you pocketed the money that people gave you???

although, to be honest, you shouldnt perhaps answer that question.

Although I should point out it was a question, hence the question marks, and not a statement because that would have ended with an exclamation mark.

And dont SHOUT, my hearing is not in question :roll:

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:54 am 
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Are you saying you pocketed the money that people gave you???



If I have this correctly, he's saying that they still have money which was collected and intended to pay for NTA membership. As they will not now be NTA members, they are going to ask those who paid this money what they wish done with it, since it will no longer be going to the NTA.

Simple enough really :D

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Charlie.. takes this whichever way you want but it is meant with the best intentions.
you seem to be stating that you collected money from drivers who thought they were paying to belong to the NTA. and now you're saying you're not going to pay that money across to the NTA.... fraud is a police matter..... so think before you post.


ALREADY SAID ITS UP TO THEM WHETHER THEY PAID TO THE NTA NOT ME THEY ARE THE MEMBERS LAST YEAR I TOLD THEM THAT SOME ONE HAD PAID £200 INTO THE NTA THEN ALL HELL LET LOSE BECASUE THEN THERE WERE TWO ASSOCIATION IN THE SAME NAME, I HAVE TOLD THEM THAT I AM NO LONGER A MEMBER OF THE nta, but bare in mind the nta have kick me out, now it up to the member what they do is it not.

they could apply in there own right, but you would still have the same two association.

bolton as ben paid by me, burnely is not a member and as far as i know neaver as been, blackburn, Taxi owners Assocaition, as neaver been a member it a new association. so were the fraud, are do you suggest i collect money and pay the nta now we are not in it.

how can i pay some one there can not be two association of the same name. but just to make sure i pass this on to GLP. AS YOU KNOW NTA subs are due in January its january so it up to members the chairman said you are know longer a member.

so please tell me i am know longer in the nta, but my members should
still pay the NTA IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.

any way its not about them its about me, i am like you say it as it is that is what they dont like, wayne as never had time for me better of out of it but the trouble is as i take more association on round here some may be members of the nta, you see the point.

and i get enquiries all the time what do i say are you a member of the NTA IF SO CANT TAKE YOU.

DONT GET INVOLVED MR T. but thank you any way the very best to you

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Are you saying you pocketed the money that people gave you???



If I have this correctly, he's saying that they still have money which was collected and intended to pay for NTA membership. As they will not now be NTA members, they are going to ask those who paid this money what they wish done with it, since it will no longer be going to the NTA.

Simple enough really :D


the question is the NTA AS KICK ME OUT, SO DO MY MEMBERS OF THE PHCA WISH TO PAY THE NTA, WHY WHEN THEY ARE NO LONGER MEMBERS, IF YOU THINK ABOUT ALL THE ASSOCIATION I TAKE ON WOULD BE IN A ROUND ABOUT WAY ALSO COVERED BY THE NTA WOULD THEY NOT AS I WAS THE SECRETARY OF THE REGION SO COULD I HAVE JUST PUT ANT THING IN ANY WAY.

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WELL IT COME TO US ALL OVER TIME,  NOW IF YOU ASK IF THEY WANT TO BE MEMBERS OF THE NTA AT £20 PER PLATE. THE FRIST THING THAT IS ASKED WHAT DO I GET FOR THAT. I SEE WERE YOU ARE GOING WITH IS.

yet bury was told to day blackburn never even asked the one that was a members if they pay they pay you but they have just lost most of there members to me, and will not be paying to the NTA NOW COUSE YOU HAVE PUT A STOP TO THAT, WELL WHAT CAN I SAY YOU DID NOT GET PAID FROM THE BTDA FOR TWO YEARS, I PAID FOR MY MEMBERS IN BOLTON, BURNLEY, NEVER ASKED THEM DONT NEED TO NOT PAYING ANYTHING, PRESTON DID PAY AT END OF LAST YEARS AS YOU WERE TOLD BY ME JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT THEY WISH ME TO DO WITH THE MONEY BUT I CAN TELL YOU THIS IT WILL NOT NOW GO TO YOU WILL IT YOU HAVE SEEN TO THAT.

BUT IF YOU NEED TO WAST TIME DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO.


Do you do a version in English?

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Are you saying you pocketed the money that people gave you???



If I have this correctly, he's saying that they still have money which was collected and intended to pay for NTA membership. As they will not now be NTA members, they are going to ask those who paid this money what they wish done with it, since it will no longer be going to the NTA.

Simple enough really :D


the question is the NTA AS KICK ME OUT, SO DO MY MEMBERS OF THE PHCA WISH TO PAY THE NTA, WHY WHEN THEY ARE NO LONGER MEMBERS, IF YOU THINK ABOUT ALL THE ASSOCIATION I TAKE ON WOULD BE IN A ROUND ABOUT WAY ALSO COVERED BY THE NTA WOULD THEY NOT AS I WAS THE SECRETARY OF THE REGION SO COULD I HAVE JUST PUT ANT THING IN ANY WAY.

THANK YOU ANY WAY


So as your organisation was booted out by the NTA, you (quite rightly) will not be paying them again.

IMHO the best course of action would be to return any NTA money to those individuals or groups who paid it.
If your organisation decides to affilliate with another trade body, you can organise a new collection to cover any fees.
This should save any further disputes or allegations.

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So as your organisation was booted out by the NTA, you (quite rightly) will not be paying them again.



They weren't booted out....they never paid the fee, which is payable under the rules.

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At the risk of repeating myself;

Dear Colleague,

Due to recent events, I have been asked to organise the quarterly meeting of regions 5 & 6 of the NTA. Admittedly this is perhaps a similar move to allowing a lunatic to take charge of the asylum.

The above aside, it more or less guarantees yours truly attending the meeting.

The meeting will be held on 4th March 2009 at the Sale Excelsior Club, Symons Road, Sale, M33 7FJ.

The meeting will commence from 10.45hrs, coffee, tea and biscuits will be available upon arrival.

As you will be aware, I sent out a consultation earlier this week concerning Wheelchair Accessible Vehicles, it is important all members read the consultation and bring their views to the meeting in order that we can discuss and hopefully form a united response to the DFT.

I take this opportunity to welcome Warrington Association into the NTA.

If any of you wish for items to be added to the agenda, please let me know by 25th February 09.

If you are unable to attend, please let me know.

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