Taxi Driver Online

its a situation caused by confusing and conflicting legislation BUT...

you cant end PH without putting 50,000 (?) PH drivers on the dole and you cant make PH and HC equals, there isnt rank space for the existing HC usually, so....whats to do?...

allow PH to take flags and pickup off the street, but not to rank up..... oh god, what did i say?

lets be fair, if someone flags a PH the chances are there isnt a hack for miles, wheres the harm IF the legislation (and insurance) allows it? if it was allowed the PH could go 100% signage and lights with plates front and back, end the confusion and meaning ILLEGAL (fake) "taxis" would be obvious as they wouldnt have signs/lights/meters, the motto "if it aint got a rooflight dont get in" springs to mind, you instantly reduce the point of an anonymous car cruising for trade or sex victims.....

_________________
Of all the things ive lost, i miss my mind the most

It's 10% of the licences authorised; as we have 6 licences authorised, the TC has given permission for us to run one car on the psv disc. I think it would be unlikely for him to authorise us to run 0.6 of a vehicle!

BTW, to get a PSV operators licence, you have to have something like £9500 in ready funds for the first licence, and £6500 for each subsequent licence, plus a transport manager, so life ain't easy for a bus operator. We also HAVE to do 6 or 8 weekly safety checks on all vehicles.

HGV ops licence used to be £5K but could be available CREDIT then got changed to a cash balance cleared for 3 months, you could employ the SERVICES of a CPC holder or employ a holder, if you sacked them you had a long time to find another.

You also need an agreement for service and repairs unless the vehicle is hired (say off Fraikin)

_________________
Of all the things ive lost, i miss my mind the most

A Taxi or a Cab or a Hackney or a Hack are quiet different from all PH, Executive CArs, Chauffer driven type companies.

The work is different, the service is different, ok you do get some bad apples, so that's why "fit and proper" is important.

And the big difference is only one can pick up off the street, and the other you have to dial up and book in advance.

So the two are quiet different, people do know that.

There isn't much difference between me as a ph driver and me as a taxi driver tbh, not here anyway. I'd have to drive a different vehicle but I'd still be reliant on a ph operator for the majority of my work. I don't see the relevance of you mentioning the 'fit & proper' requirement as it's a requirement for ph as well

_________________
Note to self: Just because it pops into my head does NOT mean it should come out of my mouth!!

So why just have the one license for PH?

Why cant the LC think outside the box?

_________________
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

Because it's not in their remit to think outside of the box

_________________
Note to self: Just because it pops into my head does NOT mean it should come out of my mouth!!

They're supposed to be doing the law from either scratch or more accurately, collecting all the cab laws together and getting a single act together (or did they forget that bit? )

_________________
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

I think it's all a bit like a buffet imo

_________________
Note to self: Just because it pops into my head does NOT mean it should come out of my mouth!!

was that buffet or buffet?

_________________
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

It was buffet not to be confused with Bufete

_________________
Note to self: Just because it pops into my head does NOT mean it should come out of my mouth!!

But current PSV laws allow for a 100% under 9 seat PSV fleet.

Can't really see why there is a fuss over large PSV fleets having 5%, 10% any%. They can have 100% if they want.

_________________
IDFIMH

For an existing operator maybe, but the TC's guidelines say 10% of the fleet. For a new operator, it simply wouldn't be allowed as it is usually a stipulation on the licence that under 9 seats and novelty vehicles cannot be operated.

I don't know of any PSV operator with a 100% fleet of under 9 seat vehicles.

It wouldnt be economical to have a ops licence, transport manager, CPC for D/D1 vehicles and run 4-8 seaters

_________________
Of all the things ive lost, i miss my mind the most

Most of the restricted mob are, but there is nothing stopping anyone running a 100% under 9 fleet.

If it wasn't for the 'separate fare' law there would be 10s of 1000s of them running.

_________________
IDFIMH