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I agree but watch out for the feeble minded on this forum, you are giving them too much to take in.

Sorry Skull - but what the west have done in the middle east hasn't helped anyone or anything.

Do you seriously think anykind of intervention now will actually make things better?

Last year the House of Commons voted on bombing Syria - 12 months later they're all but allies.

We invaded Afghanistan to stop Al Quaeda - yet if you are to believe reports there are sections of that group - a group that bombed the world trade centres - that we are trying to make allies.

I don't know what the answer is - maybe Jasbar is correct - maybe those countries need a dictator - maybe he is wrong - as I just said I don't know the answer.

But I do know putting arms in, putting planes in and putting troops in - doesn't hasn't worked and continues not to work.

I actually agree with much of Jasbar's post, but I don't hear him saying we should charge in gung ho fashion, killing as many Muslims as we can.

Perhaps he realises that an awful lot of the mess that is The Middle East today, has been caused by Western interference in the past. Why should anyone believe that more of the same will work this time, when it has failed so miserably before?

I'm sure he will let us know.

Sorry Skull - but what the west have done in the middle east hasn't helped anyone or anything.

Do you seriously think anykind of intervention now will actually make things better?

Last year the House of Commons voted on bombing Syria - 12 months later they're all but allies.

We invaded Afghanistan to stop Al Quaeda - yet if you are to believe reports there are sections of that group - a group that bombed the world trade centres - that we are trying to make allies.

I don't know what the answer is - maybe Jasbar is correct - maybe those countries need a dictator - maybe he is wrong - as I just said I don't know the answer.

But I do know putting arms in, putting planes in and putting troops in - doesn't hasn't worked and continues not to work.

Now there's a man who does get it.

I know all that and I agree. However, the problem we have now is an Islamic force which totally rejects western society, democracy, secularism, human rights and freedom. Even Islamic countries with western style governments are shi**ing themselves from ISIS because of what it might mean with the religious extremist in their own countries.

The west has let the genie out of the bottle, no doubt about it but what do we do now?

And as I said before and if you do your research, ISIS want ISLAM and only ISLAM to rule the world.

I agree.

Oh and Turkey for one has a western style government and Egypt to a degree had an election but the secular government wanted none of it, then the Army took over from the Muslim Brotherhood.

The Arab Spring remember that, the facebook and twitter revolution?

And what about all the countries with Muslim populations that actually take part in democratic elections?

This is exactly what ISIS is fighting against and killing Muslims that embrace any kind of western systems of government.