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If a vehicle hit me at 100 mph I get the feeling it would leave a bigger whole in my vehicle than one hitting me at 10 mph.

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It is well documented on this site that I do not at any time exceed the speed limit. Does this mean I will never be killed in a crash?


If I had crystal ball I could tell you but I'll tell you one thing, if you get hit at 100 mph I would suggest there is every possibility that you might.

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If a vehicle hit me at 100 mph I get the feeling it would leave a bigger whole in my vehicle than one hitting me at 10 mph.

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It is well documented on this site that I do not at any time exceed the speed limit. Does this mean I will never be killed in a crash?


If I had crystal ball I could tell you but I'll tell you one thing, if you get hit at 100 mph I would suggest there is every possibility that you might.

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Of course. And if I were driving perfectly correctly within a 40 mph zone, and a driver travelling in the opposite direction was doing the same thing, if another overtook him and hit me doing 60 mph, the collision speed would be 100 mph so it's other people I should worry about?

And of course the chance of being involved in a head on collision on a motorway are negligible, although not impossible.

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Of course. And if I were driving perfectly correctly within a 40 mph zone, and a driver travelling in the opposite direction was doing the same thing, if another overtook him and hit me doing 60 mph, the collision speed would be 100 mph so it's other people I should worry about?

And of course the chance of being involved in a head on collision on a motorway are negligible, although not impossible.


I don't know why you're harping on about motorways or 40 mph zones the thing being discussed is speed and safety belts and not necessarily in that order.

You're falling into the same trap as Tom, who harped on about deaths on roads other than motorways when no one had even mentioned deaths on motorways or other types of roads. Keep to the script and don't be another potential miss-quoter. lol

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If a vehicle hit me at 100 mph I get the feeling it would leave a bigger whole in my vehicle than one hitting me at 10 mph.

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It is well documented on this site that I do not at any time exceed the speed limit. Does this mean I will never be killed in a crash?
Don't be silly. You could be stationery and still get killed by some fool doing a ton. Isn't the hard shoulder supposed to be the worst place for accidents?

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Of course. And if I were driving perfectly correctly within a 40 mph zone, and a driver travelling in the opposite direction was doing the same thing, if another overtook him and hit me doing 60 mph, the collision speed would be 100 mph so it's other people I should worry about?

And of course the chance of being involved in a head on collision on a motorway are negligible, although not impossible.


I don't know why you're harping on about motorways or 40 mph zones the thing being discussed is speed and safety belts and not necessarily in that order.

You're falling into the same trap as Tom, who harped on about deaths on roads other than motorways when no one had even mentioned deaths on motorways or other types of roads. Keep to the script and don't be another potential miss-quoter. lol

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Harp? I haven't got a harp.

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Of course. And if I were driving perfectly correctly within a 40 mph zone, and a driver travelling in the opposite direction was doing the same thing, if another overtook him and hit me doing 60 mph, the collision speed would be 100 mph so it's other people I should worry about?

And of course the chance of being involved in a head on collision on a motorway are negligible, although not impossible.


I don't know why you're harping on about motorways or 40 mph zones the thing being discussed is speed and safety belts and not necessarily in that order.

You're falling into the same trap as Tom, who harped on about deaths on roads other than motorways when no one had even mentioned deaths on motorways or other types of roads. Keep to the script and don't be another potential miss-quoter. lol

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Harp? I haven't got a harp.


There's every possibility you might have a Harp on your hands if that girl from Scotland heads your way. lol Have you got any roads around your way that can accommodate a Flying Scotswoman? lol

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oh dear he is still going on.

I answered a post by Sussex saying that he didn't wear his seatbelt in urban or rural areas but did when he was on a motorway.

Now by this I assumed, rightly or wrongly (only Sussex will know JD) that Sussex made this decision because....he felt more at risk of harm on the motorway than down a country road.

Now I think the clearest way to measure risk is to analyse the number of fatalities on each type of road. It is simplistic but without having to measure each mile done on each road by every car it is probably accurate enough to give a true measure of risk of harm.

Now I don't know why you are rattling on about speed JD, but I think it was you that brought it into any debate. Yes, the quicker the vehicle is going the more likely the accident is fatal, but it is not that simple. Most fatal accidents happen because of oncoming cars or cars coming from side roads.

Certainly in each case, the quicker you are travelling the more likely it proves fatal. But and this was my point to Sussex, motorways are the least likely place you will be an accident that is going to seriously injure you.

So I think Sussex should, for his own sake, put his seatbelt on in country roads if he wants to minimise the risk of a being seriously hurt in a road accident.

The evidence is clear that he would be better off choosing that option instead of his current choice.

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oh dear he is still going on.

I answered a post by Sussex saying that he didn't wear his seatbelt in urban or rural areas but did when he was on a motorway.

Now by this I assumed, rightly or wrongly (only Sussex will know JD) that Sussex made this decision because....he felt more at risk of harm on the motorway than down a country road.


His decision was based on speed and safety. That's why he didn't feel the need to wear a seat belt when he wasn't travelling at high speed on roads that were regulated to slower speeds.

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Now I think the clearest way to measure risk is to analyse the number of fatalities on each type of road. It is simplistic but without having to measure each mile done on each road by every car it is probably accurate enough to give a true measure of risk of harm.


Well no one is stopping you thinking about the best way to measure risk and if you want to bring that into the debate then by all means state a case with some facts and figures. I'm sure there will be those who will agree with your figures and those who won't but I'm not biting because there are certain figures that won't or can't be proved and the fact is that we could go on all night throwing figures backwards and forwards with different scenarios and different equations but in the end most of the rhetoric is all unsubstantiated self opinion.

That's my feeling about it.

Ask Sussex why he puts his seat belt on when travelling on the Motorway I've had my guess.

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Now I don't know why you are rattling on about speed JD, but I think it was you that brought it into any debate.


All I said was, that Sussex probably wears his seatbelt on the motorway because he can travel at speeds of 70 mph and that having an accident at 70 mph is more likely to prove fatal than travelling at half that speed.

No one mentioned any type of road including motorways. Now if you think travelling at 35 miles an hour is more likely to kill you than travelling at 70 mph no matter what road you are on then you are entitled to your opinion. If you want to shower us with statistics of "how" every motorist in the UK met their death then go ahead, I'm sure it will be greatly appreciated but don't start guessing how motorists met their demise if you haven't got the facts to prove it.

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Yes, the quicker the vehicle is going the more likely the accident is fatal,


Thank you, that's exactly what I said. I'm glad you agree.

Now if you want to tell us al about deaths on country roads etc then by all means be my guest.

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Of course. And if I were driving perfectly correctly within a 40 mph zone, and a driver travelling in the opposite direction was doing the same thing, if another overtook him and hit me doing 60 mph, the collision speed would be 100 mph so it's other people I should worry about?

And of course the chance of being involved in a head on collision on a motorway are negligible, although not impossible.


I don't know why you're harping on about motorways or 40 mph zones the thing being discussed is speed and safety belts and not necessarily in that order.

You're falling into the same trap as Tom, who harped on about deaths on roads other than motorways when no one had even mentioned deaths on motorways or other types of roads. Keep to the script and don't be another potential miss-quoter. lol

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Harp? I haven't got a harp.


There's every possibility you might have a Harp on your hands if that girl from Scotland heads your way. lol Have you got any roads around your way that can accommodate a Flying Scotswoman? lol

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Did you know that there has never been a fatality on Lincolnshire motorways?

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And just how much motorway is there in Lincolnshire? :wink:

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And just how much motorway is there in Lincolnshire? :wink:


erm, well none actually.

But it's a statistical fact.

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jimbo wrote:
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Of course. And if I were driving perfectly correctly within a 40 mph zone, and a driver travelling in the opposite direction was doing the same thing, if another overtook him and hit me doing 60 mph, the collision speed would be 100 mph so it's other people I should worry about?

And of course the chance of being involved in a head on collision on a motorway are negligible, although not impossible.


I don't know why you're harping on about motorways or 40 mph zones the thing being discussed is speed and safety belts and not necessarily in that order.

You're falling into the same trap as Tom, who harped on about deaths on roads other than motorways when no one had even mentioned deaths on motorways or other types of roads. Keep to the script and don't be another potential miss-quoter. lol

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JD



Harp? I haven't got a harp.


There's every possibility you might have a Harp on your hands if that girl from Scotland heads your way. lol Have you got any roads around your way that can accommodate a Flying Scotswoman? lol

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JD


Did you know that there has never been a fatality on Lincolnshire motorways?


Can I sugest that you do a google search for "fatal accidents on the M 180" There are plenty to choose from there.

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Can I suggest YOU do a google search and discover that the M180 is NOT in Lincolnshire.

It's in North Lincolnshire, formerly known as Humberside?

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Map of Jimbo-land

According to this map North Lincolnshire is a part of Lincolnshire.

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