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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 9:36 pm 
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Of course all this "verbage" takes us further from the issue of Fare increases, another aspect is road safety as explained in this document

http://www.schallerconsult.com/taxi/safercabs.pdf

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BTW Ross have you looked of fasties lately and compared the traffic to this thread alone?

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Of course all this "verbage" takes us further from the issue of Fare increases, another aspect is road safety as explained in this document

http://www.schallerconsult.com/taxi/safercabs.pdf



Your point :?

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Sussex wrote:
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This guy has a point :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Unfair taxi system favours the owners

http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/lette ... 1045242006

I must admit if I was in your shoes the one thing I would bang on about is plate values. :wink:



That's for sure don't you think £50,000 has a certain ring to it like deeeeerestriction and there's more to come.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Sussex wrote:
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This guy has a point :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Unfair taxi system favours the owners

http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/lette ... 1045242006

I must admit if I was in your shoes the one thing I would bang on about is plate values. :wink:



That's for sure don't you think £50,000 has a certain ring to it like deeeeerestriction and there's more to come.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Yeah, 50,000 reasons for the public to slap taxi owners down.

Who likes to think the guy you're giving your hard-earned to is better off than you are, eh?


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Will someone put a post on fasties I'm starting to feel sorry for the servile idiots :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: then again maybe not :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


What about you Ross, Stu looks very lonely :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:22 pm 
So, I've been accused of doing nothing. Here's a wee bit of correspondence to the erstwhile Council leader. Hey, what do you know, the blighter has gone on holiday.

I do hope it was planned and not judicious last minute cheap deal to avoid the issue. You know how these cheap deals play havoc with the kids.

14th July 2006

Dear Cllr Anderson

Re: Civic Government (Scotland) Act 1982 - (The Act)

Tonight I learned that a taxi licence plate has been traded for the artificial "value" of £50,000.

It is now around one year since the Jacobs Report concluded that there was no significant unmet demand for taxi services in Edinburgh. City of Edinburgh Council (CEC) seized upon this report to deny licence applicants licences to operate a taxi.

Indeed, the record shows that CEC is going to inordinate lengths to ensure that licences will be denied to licence applicants, even to the point of using the draconian tactic of pursuing the matter to the highest courts in the form of a judicial review. Clearly a tactic designed to inflict the most financial injurious penalty applicants by a Council which can dig deeply in the pockets of licence payers to prosecute a dubious case.

Nevertheless, it is a matter of public record that the "value" of licence plates being traded has been deemed a key criterion in other licensing authorities to demonstrate that a significant unmet demand exists. This factor was specifically excluded by CEC in its remit to Jacobs Consultancy.

Since the Jacobs report, taxi licence "values" have now increased by over a further 25%.

Under the strict terms of the Act, I would be grateful if you would advise me precisely where it permits taxi licences to be traded in this way and an artificial plate "value" to accrue?

Please ask, on my behalf, the Council's legal department to explain the precise sections in the Act which sanctions CEC to allow this?

I would also be grateful if you could ask the Council's legal department to explain why only taxi licences, alone of all licensing types controlled by CEC under the Act, are allowed to be traded in this way?

Additionally Cllr Anderson, please explain the political justification for this "policy".

When did this become official Labour Party policy?

Does this policy have the full support of the Scottish, and National, Labour Parties?

Can you explain when this policy was adopted and what the process for its adoption was?

Specifically, can you, as Leader of the Council, describe how it is politically acceptable for someone who wants to operate a taxi licence to have to pay £50,000 to do so, when every other licence type only has to apply to the Council for a licence, subject to the normal tests of competency to operate the licence in line with Police requirements, in order to operate their business?

Thank you for your assistance with this important matter and timeous reply.


Gosh, I just can't wait for his reply.

Any guesses what it will be?


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News section TDO "Fasties Latest"

Beam me up Scottie the new man on fasties will save the Edinburgh Taxi Trade and few other things :? , nothing that important.

Worth a laugh though :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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After a period of adjustment, I reckon we'd win through.


More questions jim

How long would the period of adjustment be, weeks, months, years ?

What price would taxi drivers pay during the period of adjustment ?

Why only reckon, why not guarantee we'd win through ?

Still waiting on the answers jim.


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Ross you don't catch on very fast do you?

This was last year news, remember the "Fair View" news letter it said it all and now it's about bringing the trade to it knees.

Let's see how you cope with the trade crashing about your ears.

Read what Trinity_mirror said on fastie its bang on, a Dublin situation is coming.

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Ross wrote on fasties:


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I am led to believe there is one in the pipeline



I believe Ross was talking about another taxi organisation to lead the trade into the promised land. Then again it could just be a sh** saying that I don't think anyone could tell the difference. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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so you now earn less than 5 years ago. Its a good old capitalist tactic called the speed up .ever thought of getting organised?if I were that etonian ponce of the tory vermin i would love this website some of the most exploited workers in the country ripping each other too pieces but grovelling at their altar of corruption get ORGANISED join the GMB NOW!!!


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:39 am 
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so you now earn less than 5 years ago. Its a good old capitalist tactic called the speed up .ever thought of getting organised?if I were that etonian ponce of the tory vermin i would love this website some of the most exploited workers in the country ripping each other too pieces but grovelling at their altar of corruption get ORGANISED join the GMB NOW!!!


Wow!

Let me say at the outset of answering this that it may extend to some length. It may appear as a rant. I consider it objective. Please bear with me.

Let me also say that I intend to assume that you are what you profess to be. A bone fide member of the GMB, or even a representative.

Wow!

Your first interesting point was to utter the word "capitalist". I truly can't remember the last time I heard any utterance from a trade union which used such a politically explosive term. Since New Labour, using such a clearly divisive class term has long since been kicked into touch. I will assume you are up for debate.

"ever thought of getting organised?" This is classic. Here in Edinburgh the T & G organised a Branch for the taxi trade. I was keen to join up. However, before the first meeting, the Edinburgh Cartel representative got himself "elected" without a formal meeting, took over the branch and proceeded to maintain the status quo. Nice one, Alex Graham - reprobate.

Of course, nothing then happened. The T & G branch has achieved nothing. Done nothing to advance the trade. Oh, except, Mr Graham got his position on the Council's Hire Car Licensing Consultation Group, and its predcessor the TLG, and "represented" our interests on it? Fat chance. It was only an opportunity for this rat to spout his own brand of Edinburgh's cartels' selfish interests.

This complete Richard Tete never solicited opinion from the trade, nor consulted with it, nor reported back to the trade what was being discussed on its behalf in Council. Not ever. Not even once. Alex Graham, you are a [edited by admin].

So we're supposed to feel good about trade unionism in the taxi trade. Yet, here in Edinburgh we have a union branch supporting the interests of those who "offer" jobs to workers. We have a trade union representing employers interests. Kinda apt in fascist Blair's New Labour Britain, is it not?

Next we come to the value of trade unions, which you would exhort us all to join to "get organised".

This is the same movement which supports the New Labour Government.

A government which has sent our young soldiers to die in Afghanistan and Iraq. To die to preserve the interests of capitalists intent on capturing oil reserves. The GMB, as part of the Labour movement, by offering no protest, is complicit in these actions. You want us to invest our "representation" with you under such circumstances? You're having a laugh.

So, where was the protest from the Labour movement? It didn't happen.

Just as there has been no protest about the way that the fascistk, Tony Blair, has allowed the grossest weakening of our Labour laws. We have employers running rampant over every worker's right which has been hard fought for over a century or more to achieve. Blair has cashed it all in, in pursuit of his own personal interest, his sycophantic servitude to the arch criminal George Bush.

We now have, as proof of this, the weakest Labour protection laws in the entire European Union. When a multi-national company needs to downsize, it knows that the weakness of our Labour laws means that, in spite of the excellent productivity of our workers, Britain is the place to close factories. The trade union movement did NOTHING to prevent this.

So, don't start using crap terms like capitalist to me, you don't even begin to understand the meaning.

You want a debate on Socialism and the application of Capital, I can give it to you. I was a member of a pure socialist organisation and was proud to be so. The Labour Party, has long since stopped being so. It is now part of the problem rather than the solution. The trade union movement, and the GMB in particular, is little more than an historical embarrassment, and worse, a commercial irrelevance.

So, crawl into your hole, and die of embarrassment.

If there is any satisfaction, it is that the Labour Party is now nearly £40 million in debt. It's membership is as little as 192,000, down 50% since warmonger, I would suggest war criminal, Tony Blair led the party to government in 1997.

It is dying. In my book the sooner the better. I can't wait and I hope it is never resurrsted. Such is the fate of those who allow principal to be subsumed by naked greed, incompetency and betrayial of core values. My aims are:-

First to get rid of the despicable war criminal formerly known as Tony Blair.

Second, to send the clearest message to the assholes in the Labour movement that they've betrayed us all.

Thirdly, to send the clearest message to the trade unions that they allowed their own destruction to happen.

GMB. R.I.P.

Now, what were you saying about getting organised? By you ... ?


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so you now earn less than 5 years ago. Its a good old capitalist tactic called the speed up .ever thought of getting organised?if I were that etonian ponce of the tory vermin i would love this website some of the most exploited workers in the country ripping each other too pieces but grovelling at their altar of corruption get ORGANISED join the GMB NOW!!!


Wow!

Let me say at the outset of answering this that it may extend to some length. It may appear as a rant. I consider it objective. Please bear with me.

Let me also say that I intend to assume that you are what you profess to be. A bone fide member of the GMB, or even a representative.

Wow!

Your first interesting point was to utter the word "capitalist". I truly can't remember the last time I heard any utterance from a trade union which used such a politically explosive term. Since New Labour, using such a clearly divisive class term has long since been kicked into touch. I will assume you are up for debate.

"ever thought of getting organised?" This is classic. Here in Edinburgh the T & G organised a Branch for the taxi trade. I was keen to join up. However, before the first meeting, the Edinburgh Cartel representative got himself "elected" without a formal meeting, took over the branch and proceeded to maintain the status quo. Nice one, Alex Graham - reprobate.

Of course, nothing then happened. The T & G branch has achieved nothing. Done nothing to advance the trade. Oh, except, Mr Graham got his position on the Council's Hire Car Licensing Consultation Group, and its predcessor the TLG, and "represented" our interests on it? Fat chance. It was only an opportunity for this rat to spout his own brand of Edinburgh's cartels' selfish interests.

This complete Richard Tete never solicited opinion from the trade, nor consulted with it, nor reported back to the trade what was being discussed on its behalf in Council. Not ever. Not even once. Alex Graham, you are a [edited by admin].

So we're supposed to feel good about trade unionism in the taxi trade. Yet, here in Edinburgh we have a union branch supporting the interests of those who "offer" jobs to workers. We have a trade union representing employers interests. Kinda apt in fascist Blair's New Labour Britain, is it not?

Next we come to the value of trade unions, which you would exhort us all to join to "get organised".

This is the same movement which supports the New Labour Government.

A government which has sent our young soldiers to die in Afghanistan and Iraq. To die to preserve the interests of capitalists intent on capturing oil reserves. The GMB, as part of the Labour movement, by offering no protest, is complicit in these actions. You want us to invest our "representation" with you under such circumstances? You're having a laugh.

So, where was the protest from the Labour movement? It didn't happen.

Just as there has been no protest about the way that the fascistk, Tony Blair, has allowed the grossest weakening of our Labour laws. We have employers running rampant over every worker's right which has been hard fought for over a century or more to achieve. Blair has cashed it all in, in pursuit of his own personal interest, his sycophantic servitude to the arch criminal George Bush.

We now have, as proof of this, the weakest Labour protection laws in the entire European Union. When a multi-national company needs to downsize, it knows that the weakness of our Labour laws means that, in spite of the excellent productivity of our workers, Britain is the place to close factories. The trade union movement did NOTHING to prevent this.

So, don't start using crap terms like capitalist to me, you don't even begin to understand the meaning.

You want a debate on Socialism and the application of Capital, I can give it to you. I was a member of a pure socialist organisation and was proud to be so. The Labour Party, has long since stopped being so. It is now part of the problem rather than the solution. The trade union movement, and the GMB in particular, is little more than an historical embarrassment, and worse, a commercial irrelevance.

So, crawl into your hole, and die of embarrassment.

If there is any satisfaction, it is that the Labour Party is now nearly £40 million in debt. It's membership is as little as 192,000, down 50% since warmonger, I would suggest war criminal, Tony Blair led the party to government in 1997.

It is dying. In my book the sooner the better. I can't wait and I hope it is never resurrsted. Such is the fate of those who allow principal to be subsumed by naked greed, incompetency and betrayial of core values. My aims are:-

First to get rid of the despicable war criminal formerly known as Tony Blair.

Second, to send the clearest message to the assholes in the Labour movement that they've betrayed us all.

Thirdly, to send the clearest message to the trade unions that they allowed their own destruction to happen.

GMB. R.I.P.

Now, what were you saying about getting organised? By you ... ?



Don't beat about the bush Jim let this guy know what you really think of the GMB. :D

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I take it Jim wont be joining the GMB or voting LABOUR in the next general elections then, good on him :lol: :lol:

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