Stinky Pete wrote:
anyone know any more, and what law are they using????
They have no powers to fine you.
But I bet most of the lads pay up.
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| Author: | Stinky Pete [ Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | £50 fine You couldn't make it up, |
York Station taxi drivers face £50 fine by the railway company for doing a U turn on Station property to gain acces to the rear end of the Station taxi rank, the correct procedure issued by the Railway Company is to go into the long stay car park through the barrier and approach that way anyone know any more, and what law are they using???? what about the private cars that do this U turn as they turn away from the car park when they realise that its a long stay car park and only need short stay are they also liable for this £50 fine |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: £50 fine You couldn't make it up, |
Stinky Pete wrote: anyone know any more, and what law are they using????
They have no powers to fine you. But I bet most of the lads pay up.
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| Author: | grandad [ Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: £50 fine You couldn't make it up, |
Sussex wrote: They have no powers to fine you.
How do they think they will be able to enforce this? |
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| Author: | captain cab [ Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:43 am ] |
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http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/rail/legislation/regs/railwaysbyelaws.pdf 14. Traffic signs, causing obstructions and parking (1) No person in charge of any motor vehicle, bicycle or other conveyance shall use it on any part of the railway in contravention of any traffic sign. (2) No person in charge of any motor vehicle, bicycle or other conveyance shall leave or place it on any part of the railway: (i) in any manner or place where it may cause an obstruction or hindrance to an Operator or any person using the railway; or (ii) otherwise than in accordance with any instructions issued by or on behalf of an Operator or an authorised person. (3) No person in charge of any motor vehicle, bicycle or other conveyance shall park it on any part of the railway where charges are made for parking by an Operator or an authorised person without paying the appropriate charge at the appropriate time in accordance with instructions given by an Operator or an authorised person at that place. (4) In England and Wales (i) The owner of any motor vehicle, bicycle or other conveyance used, left or placed in breach of Byelaw 14(1) to 14(3) may be liable to pay a penalty as displayed in that area. (ii) Without prejudice to Byelaw 14(4)(i), any motor vehicle, bicycle or other conveyance used, left or placed in breach of Byelaw 14(1) to 14(3) may be clamped, removed, and stored, by or under the direction of an Operator or authorised person. (iii) The owner of the motor vehicle, bicycle or other conveyance shall be liable to an Operator or an authorised person for the costs incurred in clamping, removing and storing it provided that there is in that area a notice advising that any vehicle parked contrary to these Byelaws may be clamped, removed and stored by an Operator or an authorised person and that the costs incurred by an Operator or an authorised person for this may be recovered from the vehicle’s owner. (iv) The power of clamping and removal provided in Byelaw 14(4)(ii) above shall not be exercisable in any area where passenger parking is permitted unless there is on display in that area a notice advising that any vehicle parked contrary to these Byelaws may be clamped and/or removed by an Operator or an authorised person. |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Thu Sep 10, 2009 5:30 pm ] |
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They cannot fine you. The only folks who can fine are the police and the courts. |
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| Author: | cabbyman [ Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:00 pm ] |
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What tickets are they issuing? Do the tickets mention railway byelaws and magistrates courts? What is the name on the ticket of the issuing company? Some rail companies contract out their traffic enforcement to private companies who have no powers. Get someone to open a thread and display a ticket on www.pepipoo.com They'll give you the full SP on the legality of the tickets and enforcement procedures being applied. |
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| Author: | GBC [ Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:11 am ] |
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Sussex wrote: They cannot fine you.
The only folks who can fine are the police and the courts. The BTP started this little game at Waterloo using the station cameras to do their dirty work. I've no idea how many were issued or if the drivers contested them, but it has had a huge impact on driver behaviour, with 99% of them now following the road and using the roundabout. |
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| Author: | grandad [ Fri Sep 11, 2009 6:48 am ] |
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I suppose that as it is their land, If drivers won't obey the no U turn instruction, they may lose their station permit. |
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| Author: | cabbyman [ Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:58 am ] |
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grandad wrote: I suppose that as it is their land, If drivers won't obey the no U turn instruction, they may lose their station permit.
But, unless it is the train company issuing on the authority of a properly constituted byelaw, enforceable at the magistrates court, it is just so much toilet paper. It is a contractual invoice for which no contract existed in the first place. Let's have some details and see what's what. |
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| Author: | GBC [ Fri Sep 11, 2009 2:50 pm ] |
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grandad wrote: I suppose that as it is their land, If drivers won't obey the no U turn instruction, they may lose their station permit.
A what? A Permit? To fish? 
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