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Please Ireland, vote no again...

(how did Ireland get TWO referendums when we didnt even get the ONE we were promised?) - oh yeah, they woted NO the first time...


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8285849.stm




please god NO - looks whose gonna be in charge

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... weeks.html

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Of all the things ive lost, i miss my mind the most

I second that...and if they vote no I promise never to tell another Irishman joke ever again.........

Please vote "NO"

Ohh how I wish that I had the money to challenge the legality of this vote through the World courts.

A democratic vote was taken, they did not like the result and now we have another OR maybe another Or perhaps another until we/they get the result that they want. That is bloody outrageous and if it happened in any other country our lot would be jumping up and down. As you can see it is not just our politics that are corrupt, it is Europe as well.

If only the Irish realised just how much the democratic world is rooting for them to do the right thing then it would be a no brainer, and their fighting over the years to remain free will have been worthwhile. To vote it away after the turmoil they have been through would not make sense.

And to think that Bliar will be back in charge is unbelievable and unpalatable.

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if you cannot be yourself, then who can you be.

What turmoil was that then?

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Grandad,

kneel before him...

(its all in Revelations and the prophesies of nostradamus)

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Of all the things ive lost, i miss my mind the most

Thursday, 13 December 2007

EU leaders sign the Revised Treaty in Jeronimos monastery, Lisbon

The treaty was signed at Lisbon's historic Jeronimos monastery

EU leaders have signed a revised version of the Old Treaty of Rome in
the Portuguese capital, Lisbon, that is expected to greatly alter the
way the 27-nation body operates.

The treaty creates an EU president and a more powerful foreign policy chief.

The document, signed at a ceremony at the city's historic Jeronimos
Monastery, also scraps veto powers in many policy areas.

It is a replacement for the EU constitution, which was abandoned
following French and Dutch opposition.

EU leaders insist that the two texts are in no way equivalent.

But the Revised Rome treaty incorporates some of the draft
constitution's key reforms, and several governments face domestic
pressure over the document.

KEY REVISED ROME TREATY REFORMS

Creates new European Council president
New foreign policy supremo to increase EU profile
Commissioners reduced from 27 to 18
Removes national vetoes in around 50 policy areas
Voting weights between member states redistributed
No reference to EU symbols such as the flag and anthem
Treaty faces referendum in Ireland and must be ratified by all other EU
parliaments

In a speech before the signing, European Commission President Jose
Manuel Barroso called on European leaders to use the treaty to make
freedom, prosperity and solidarity an everyday reality for all European
citizens.

"From this old continent, a new Europe is born," he said.


The leaders signed the treaty, translated into the EU's 23 official
languages, using specially engraved silver fountain pens as a choir sang
Beethoven's Ode to Joy.

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Of all the things ive lost, i miss my mind the most

Do you think we need to question his hairdresser regarding birthmarks?

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Grandad,

There was a lot of in fighting/killing amongst themselves. With that in mind would you want some one from Northern Ireland dictating policy from Brussels as to how you would live in Southern Ireland? The way we are going on it will/would be the same as us being dictated to by Iraq or even Afghanistan elected ministers who have a seat in Brussels, and as it is jobs for the boys who is to say that will not happen in time.

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if you cannot be yourself, then who can you be.

What has Northern Ireland got to do with this?

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Grandad,

I think the clue is in the fact that they were killing one another and whether it is liked or not................there is still a divide.

Would you like an old enemy telling you or dictating policy as to how you should live from Brussels.

If that does not answer it for you please tell me what I am missing.

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if you cannot be yourself, then who can you be.

I was under the impression that the troubles were in Northern Ireland and Not the Republic and this vote is only taking place in the Republic.

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Grandad,

Tell that to the people in Dublin where Hotels were blown up every other week.

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if you cannot be yourself, then who can you be.

I have just read the chronicals of the troubles and the Republic gets a mention on about 5 occasions during the whole troubles, that is less than England.

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Grandad,

All I will say is to Google "IRA V Republic of Ireland" and you will see that the troubles go back a long long way. Why I say google it, because there are far to many links just to pick out one.............perhaps the picture will begin to unfold

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if you cannot be yourself, then who can you be.

You can't be sugesting that the IRA were bombing pubs in the republic?
I think that although there have been problems since Northern Ireland was created most people accept that the real trouble started in the late 60s/early 70s

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Grandad,