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| Author: | JD [ Wed Jan 05, 2005 6:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Are Brighton's fares expensive? |
Last night I had a young lady student in my cab from Brighton. She was telling me how vastly more expensive the cab fares are in Brighton compared to Manchester. Didn't Brighton council or some Taxi organisation down there refer to Brighton's cab fares as being low under the present policy of restriction and that it was further evidence why numbers should remain restricted. lol Anyone know the flag fall, mileage and tariff 2 rates in Brighton? Best wishes JD |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Wed Jan 05, 2005 8:26 am ] |
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http://www.streamlinetaxis202020.com/St ... eHome.html But at least they were cheaper on New Year's Day.
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| Author: | JD [ Wed Jan 05, 2005 12:18 pm ] |
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Sussex wrote: http://www.streamlinetaxis202020.com/StreamlineHome.html
But at least they were cheaper on New Year's Day. Well I just got the tariff from Brighton council and its no wonder my passenger complained about the fares down there. Flag fall = £2.30 for the first 716 mtrs then 20p for each additional 179 mtrs. Tariff 2 Flag fall £3.10 from 10pm to 6am. = 80p extra Tariff 3 flag fall £4.10 Friday 12 to 6am sat 12 - 6am = 1-80 extra. Tariff 3 works out at £5 for the first mile. Best wishes JD |
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| Author: | captain cab [ Wed Jan 05, 2005 8:16 pm ] |
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lol great idea to put it in metres, confuse the hell out of everyone regards Captain cab |
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| Author: | JD [ Wed Jan 05, 2005 8:38 pm ] |
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captain cab wrote: lol great idea to put it in metres, confuse the hell out of everyone
regards Captain cab lol I'm sorry about that Cap. 716 metres = 783 yards 179 metres = 195 yards 1 mile = 1609 metres I hope this helps you understand the tariff a little better. Best wishes JD |
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| Author: | TDO [ Thu Jan 06, 2005 2:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Are Brighton's fares expensive? |
JD wrote: Last night I had a young lady student in my cab from Brighton. She was telling me how vastly more expensive the cab fares are in Brighton compared to Manchester.
Anyone know the flag fall, mileage and tariff 2 rates in Brighton? For the last year or two at least the PHM tables have regularly shown Brighton near the top, indeed above or around London levels. Brighton doesn't have particularly tight restrictions numbers wise, but the fare levels, combined with saloon cars (a 50mpg Octavia compared with an LTI returning half that, say), perhaps explains why premiums are fairly high. |
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| Author: | TDO [ Thu Jan 06, 2005 2:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Are Brighton's fares expensive? |
JD wrote: . Didn't Brighton council or some Taxi organisation down there refer to Brighton's cab fares as being low under the present policy of restriction and that it was further evidence why numbers should remain restricted.
In the document that Nidge posted a week or two ago the T&G said: 3.6 We know also from the OFT surveys that on average, fares are higher in de-limited areas Presumably they think they would go even higher with de-limitation!! Anyway, the point was made in the T&G's OFT response, and we covered it in Myth and Reality, and the point was hardly plausible even then. In the Brighton document the T&G also said: Plate limitation is working well in conjunction with managed growth. It is providing positive benefits to the consumer including: • Reasonably priced fares Quite. Presumably the T&G's concept of 'reasonable' is similar to its concept of 'regular', as per its claim in the OFT response that Brighton had undertaken 'regular' surveys. Not true. |
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| Author: | TDO [ Thu Jan 06, 2005 2:46 pm ] |
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Also interesting was the mention of fares in the council-authored part of the Brighton document: Limiting the number of licences does produce a price premium on the cost of a licensed vehicle and that premium comes into play when a licensed vehicle is sold on. It is sometimes argued that in an area where there is a limited number policy the fares are higher to take account of that premium. In this city that is not so. Fares are subject to a formula using AA vehicle running costs, government average earnings figures and independent insurance quotations. None of those figures take account of the vehicle price premium. The formula sets the highest figure that will be entertained by the council in setting fares. The actual fares are then set in negotiation with the taxi trade. The claim seems to be that in some areas fares are formulated taking premiums into account. I've never heard that myself, but what is often claimed is that fares could be lower without premiums, or, as a cororally, that high fares feed through to fat premiums. So the above statement isn't really relevant, because surely no LA takes premiums into account when setting fares? But what is beyond doubt is that premiums and fare levels are related - it's basic economics that excess profits and plate premiums must be related to fare levels - £40,000 for a piece of paper doesn't come out of thin air! |
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| Author: | captain cab [ Thu Jan 06, 2005 7:27 pm ] |
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Quote: captain cab wrote:
lol great idea to put it in metres, confuse the hell out of everyone regards Captain cab lol I'm sorry about that Cap. 716 metres = 783 yards 179 metres = 195 yards 1 mile = 1609 metres I hope this helps you understand the tariff a little better. Best wishes JD hmmmm, just as i suspected..........bloody expensive! hehe thanks JD regards Captain cab |
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| Author: | Guest [ Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:26 pm ] |
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now come on lads someone has got to pay for the plate price. but then as i got mine for nothing should i give a discount? 
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| Author: | Yorkie [ Fri Jan 07, 2005 2:45 am ] |
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Cgull wrote: now come on lads someone has got to pay for the plate price.
but then as i got mine for nothing should i give a discount? and there goes the big point, the cartel dictates all Brighton fartes are the same, private hires and yours cgull the big point though is the fares are so high so salloons can pay premiums the wavs in fact need more running costs ahugefuckingjoke theytakethepiss |
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| Author: | Nidge2 [ Fri Jan 07, 2005 9:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Are Brighton's fares expensive? |
JD wrote: Last night I had a young lady student in my cab from Brighton. She was telling me how vastly more expensive the cab fares are in Brighton compared to Manchester. Didn't Brighton council or some Taxi organisation down there refer to Brighton's cab fares as being low under the present policy of restriction and that it was further evidence why numbers should remain restricted. lol
Anyone know the flag fall, mileage and tariff 2 rates in Brighton? Best wishes JD Well it sure is right seen as the average peoprty price in Brighton is £216,000 where as Manchester is £137,000. http://www.proviser.com/regional/local_ ... ty_prices/ http://www.proviser.com/regional/counti ... ty_prices/ Makes good reading. |
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| Author: | captain cab [ Fri Jan 07, 2005 10:00 am ] |
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Quote: Well it sure is right seen as the average peoprty price in Brighton is £216,000 where as Manchester is £137,000.
http://www.proviser.com/regional/local_ ... ty_prices/ http://www.proviser.com/regional/counti ... ty_prices/ Makes good reading. lol Nidge, it is Manchester
hehe Captain cab |
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| Author: | Gateshead Angel [ Fri Jan 07, 2005 10:08 am ] |
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Yet again this site reverts to attacking the T&G. The question asked was "are Brightons fares expensive ?". The answer is YES. I could be wrong here, but plate values have been high in Brighton for some considerable time, whereas the fares only rose sharply more recently and have been maintained following the introduction of the Fare Rise Formula, which is applied on a yearly basis. I don't think that the premium paid is taken ito account within the formula. Sorry to potentially burst your bubble. B. Lucky 
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| Author: | Yorkie [ Fri Jan 07, 2005 11:43 am ] |
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Of course the premium is part of the fare formula! it was in the base b4 the formula started so will rise every year. |
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