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Author:  captain cab [ Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Novel Idea from Wyre
Simple qualification scheme would solve taxi dilemma


A LOT of people in Wyre Forest seem to be angry and upset about the district council’s policy on licensing only wheelchair accessible vehicles as hackney carriage taxis.

I agree with the council’s policy, but do feel sorry for the people who insist that they can’t get into these vehicles.

A two-tier system would be unfair in most cases and would give rise to many court cases where owners of WAVs (wheelchair accessible vehicles) might feel discriminated against as they would never be able to compete on an equal level with the owners of non-WAVs (saloon cars).

Believe it or not, there is a very simple solution to this – a two-tier system which would be fair to everyone and not contestable in court.

I am talking about an apprenticeship of 10 years. This is how it would work.

1 Any person wanting to licence a non-WAV as a hackney carriage must have first owned and operated a WAV or WAVs continuously for a period of more than 10 years on the same hackney carriage vehicle licence.

2 They may then use that hackney carriage vehicle licence as a non-WAV licence for an indefinite period as long as: (a) They were licensed as a hackney carriage driver for the 10 years in which they owned and operated the WAV.

(b) They continue being licensed as a hackney carriage driver for the indefinite period in which they own and operate the non-WAV.

(c) If for any reason the owner/operator of the non-WAV no longer retains his/her hackney carriage drivers’ licence then they must relinquish their right to own/operate a non-WAV and hand back their licence plates within seven days.

(d) Only one non-WAV licence will be issued to each qualifying applicant to prevent the collecting of non-WAV licences by individuals or taxi cartels.

Anyone who is currently operating a non-WAV should be allowed to carry on operating a non-WAV, as long as they meet the criteria in 2 (b),(c) and (d).

I would like these proposals to be considered by the licensing committee.

JOHN TURLEY Clarence Street Kidderminster

http://www.kidderminstershuttle.co.uk/news/
Author:  edders23 [ Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:08 pm ]
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that would cause as many problems a much simpler idea

Only allow up to 4 seaters on as saloon hackneys anyone wanting 5 or more seats must have a WAV a balance would soon be achieved because there would be a market for WAV's for 5 to 8 seater bookings pushchairs bikes large shopping etc a balance between saloons and Wav's would follow unlike in my area where any old battered transit can get a plate as an 8 seater and only 2 people in the whole district over 100000 pop have Wav's and the council wonders why wheelchair passengers complain about lack of suitable vehicles
Author:  jimbo [ Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:57 pm ]
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An even simpler solution? 100% WAV.
Author:  GBC [ Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:26 pm ]
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jimbo wrote:
An even simpler solution? 100% WAV.


I reckon that, along with a decent quality control that we could call . . say . . 'The Knowledge', may just be the answer to improve the taxi trades lot. :wink:
Author:  captain cab [ Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:39 am ]
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jimbo wrote:
An even simpler solution? 100% WAV.


It was better than mine......this did involve a lot of praying and healing of the sick though :wink:

CC
Author:  toots [ Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:42 am ]
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jimbo wrote:
An even simpler solution? 100% WAV.


Definately the best solution in my eyes, cos being PH all those people who can't or won't get into purpose built taxis will ring the PH companies, result :wink:
Author:  MR T [ Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:48 am ]
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There is no doubt that private hire far out way the numbers of Hackney licensed vehicles.
so it would be reasonable to insist that all private hire be wheelchair accessible, after all this would provide a much better system for the disabled.
Author:  Sussex [ Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:42 pm ]
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MR T wrote:
There is no doubt that private hire far out way the numbers of Hackney licensed vehicles.
so it would be reasonable to insist that all private hire be wheelchair accessible, after all this would provide a much better system for the disabled.

As the Government Minister said in the Lords;

‘would be incredibly burdensome to the private hire industry‘
Author:  edders23 [ Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:58 am ]
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MR T wrote:
There is no doubt that private hire far out way the numbers of Hackney licensed vehicles.
so it would be reasonable to insist that all private hire be wheelchair accessible, after all this would provide a much better system for the disabled.


In my district there are about 300 hackneys and 5 PH and the same goes for most rural areas only the big towns and cities have a large PH fleet
Author:  toots [ Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:24 pm ]
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edders23 wrote:
MR T wrote:
There is no doubt that private hire far out way the numbers of Hackney licensed vehicles.
so it would be reasonable to insist that all private hire be wheelchair accessible, after all this would provide a much better system for the disabled.


In my district there are about 300 hackneys and 5 PH and the same goes for most rural areas only the big towns and cities have a large PH fleet


Are they WAVs?
Author:  edders23 [ Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:54 pm ]
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Only 2 Wav's mine and one in grotsville
Author:  gusmac [ Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:18 pm ]
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Sussex wrote:
MR T wrote:
There is no doubt that private hire far out way the numbers of Hackney licensed vehicles.
so it would be reasonable to insist that all private hire be wheelchair accessible, after all this would provide a much better system for the disabled.

As the Government Minister said on the Lords;

‘would be incredibly burdensome to the private hire industry‘


Incredibly burdensome to the taxi trade as well. :wink:
Author:  toots [ Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:23 pm ]
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edders23 wrote:
Only 2 Wav's mine and one in grotsville


so how many do you think will go to PH if they ALL have to be WAVs?
Author:  captain cab [ Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:49 pm ]
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gusmac wrote:
Sussex wrote:
MR T wrote:
There is no doubt that private hire far out way the numbers of Hackney licensed vehicles.
so it would be reasonable to insist that all private hire be wheelchair accessible, after all this would provide a much better system for the disabled.

As the Government Minister said on the Lords;

‘would be incredibly burdensome to the private hire industry‘


Incredibly burdensome to the taxi trade as well. :wink:


The PH industry have more cash than the HC trade, and more nouse, the HC trade prefer to fight each other or react to events.

CC
Author:  towag [ Fri Feb 19, 2010 4:26 pm ]
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edders23 wrote:
MR T wrote:
There is no doubt that private hire far out way the numbers of Hackney licensed vehicles.
so it would be reasonable to insist that all private hire be wheelchair accessible, after all this would provide a much better system for the disabled.


In my district there are about 300 hackneys and 5 PH and the same goes for most rural areas only the big towns and cities have a large PH fleet


Sorry, not true..... Winchester has 48 saloons (no 13 bad luck?), 80 wav's Hackney..... aaannnnd, wait for it! ..................218 private hire!!! :shock: :sad:
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