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 Post subject: Bring Back Nige
PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 4:09 pm 
I did not see the offending e-mail that got Nige barred, it must have been bad judging by the horrible e-mails poster recently under Gateshead Angel.

well that candidate in the past barred many members you only had to disaggree with him and you were gone.

Nige on the other hand was no barrer, and whilt I can see he has had a sulk for months, well dont know what has got into him.

a seccond chance should be afforded him in my view, yes he gets a lot wrong, yes he is easily led, but he is at least a taxidriver one of us,
not some fast tan salesman whos views quite frankly............................

swap them by all means but please dont do this to Nige.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 6:45 pm 
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I always find it worrying when someones views are rejected just because they do not agree with yours. Censorship is a valuable tool but dangerous when used too often or for the wrong reasons.

What I have seen over the few months I have been 'tuned' in is the degeneration of healthy debate to a offensive slanging match between a small minority of members, with TDO joining in. Accusations and statements cannot be made without evidence to substantiate them otherwise we would all be free to say anything we wanted without being checked. Draw a line under recent events and lets get back to proper debates. :-|


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 7:35 pm 
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DAP wrote:
I always find it worrying when someones views are rejected just because they do not agree with yours. Censorship is a valuable tool but dangerous when used too often or for the wrong reasons.


What makes you think this person was banned because of his views? Making a statement that might not be true would detract from the point you are trying to make.

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What I have seen over the few months I have been 'tuned' in is the degeneration of healthy debate to a offensive slanging match between a small minority of members, with TDO joining in.


You have a keen eye! I don't suppose you wish to elaborate on who this small group of members are?

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Accusations and statements cannot be made without evidence to substantiate them otherwise we would all be free to say anything we wanted without being checked. |


Again, who has been making unsubstantiated accusations? I think possibly, the reason why this individual was banned in the first place is because he and his partner in crime thought it more appropriate to concentrate on personalities, rather than on what was being debated.

I've never been one for censorship but reading between the lines it appears that a lot of the members on this site know each other from previous online forums. It would also appear that censorship was rife in those other forums. Far be it from me tell anyone how to conduct their forum but I would just add this.

Invading a person's private life for malicious reasons and without good cause has no place in a debating forum. Continually trying to disrupt and discredit this site for whatever reasons is an attack on the hard work, effort and future credibility of this site. I doubt very much that the time and effort which is put into this site by those that run it wish to see that credibility undermined by individuals who have an ulterior motive.

If grown-ups want to act like children then they should expect to be treated like children. In my opinion and from what I have seen recently the administration was correct in their actions. This site will know doubt go from strength to strength, it is bigger than any individual member, everyone has the choice of either growing with it and making it stronger, or taking their welcome contribution somewhere else.

Perhaps a warning shot has been fired across the bows of those who think persistent breaches of good etiquette will be tolerated. I hope these comments resonate in the right quarter.

Best wishes

JD


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 9:33 pm 
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I think JD is right.

There has been jousting on previous forums in the past between two tags teams.

I came in just as things were disintegrating two forums ago.

One tag team had their efforts in the previous life. They were going to change the world, with big benefits coming from the site. Like other ventures one has partaken in it failed.

It could still be going today if they stumped up the registration fee, which I don't feel would be colossal. But postings had migrated here. I think it got to the stage where one of them was posting under multiple 'handles' just to make debate appear to be going on.

This one is well run. Still needs a stronger moderator, imho, to redirect debate onto the topic prescribed rather than several interesting topics playing host to the same old slanging match.

I do miss the radical views of Maurice on this site. The London lads are always good for a bite.

I hope Nidge is allowed back, but I hope he desists in his habit of throwing in personal insults into his posts. He lives on a different planet to me and I enjoy the jousting.

Perhaps I should start a new thread 'Is Richard Matthews the saviour or destructor of the taxi industry'.

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I would like to know what Nidge actually did before passing anykind of judgement.

Nidge and GA for that matter have never offended or upset me, indeed last time I knew I was going to buy one or the other a drink in the North east early next month. :wink:

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 9:58 pm 
Tom Thumb wrote:
I think JD is right.

There has been jousting on previous forums in the past between two tags teams.

I came in just as things were disintegrating two forums ago.

One tag team had their efforts in the previous life. They were going to change the world, with big benefits coming from the site. Like other ventures one has partaken in it failed.

It could still be going today if they stumped up the registration fee, which I don't feel would be colossal. But postings had migrated here. I think it got to the stage where one of them was posting under multiple 'handles' just to make debate appear to be going on.

This one is well run. Still needs a stronger moderator, imho, to redirect debate onto the topic prescribed rather than several interesting topics playing host to the same old slanging match.

I do miss the radical views of Maurice on this site. The London lads are always good for a bite.

I hope Nidge is allowed back, but I hope he desists in his habit of throwing in personal insults into his posts. He lives on a different planet to me and I enjoy the jousting.

Perhaps I should start a new thread 'Is Richard Matthews the saviour or destructor of the taxi industry'.



who is Richard Mathews?


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 9:59 pm 
captain cab wrote:
I would like to know what Nidge actually did before passing anykind of judgement.

Nidge and GA for that matter have never offended or upset me, indeed last time I knew I was going to buy one or the other a drink in the North east early next month. :wink:

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Captain cab



money to burn this Captain Cab chap.


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who is Richard Mathews?


was he the guy with manchester airport and chelmsford bus connections?

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money to burn this Captain Cab chap.


lol yorkie, i'd expect one back :wink:

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 11:04 pm 
captain cab wrote:
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who is Richard Mathews?


was he the guy with manchester airport and chelmsford bus connections?

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money to burn this Captain Cab chap.


lol yorkie, i'd expect one back :wink:

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is that him then? it would make sense of the posting!


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 12:28 am 
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DAP wrote:
Accusations and statements cannot be made without evidence to substantiate them otherwise we would all be free to say anything we wanted without being checked. Draw a line under recent events and lets get back to proper debates. :-|

I agree DAP, especially with your last comments.

However the issue at hand isn't/wasn't someone's views, goodness knows a site without differing views isn't exactly much fun, it was a member who thinks he is some sort of Sherlock Holmes.

Some members have no problem giving their fun identity, however most wish to keep their identities to themselves. Does either option make someone's views more or less valid?

If someone wishes, for whatever reason, to post under a synonym, who cares? Most of the web works this way, it's the norm. Which makes it so sad that some wish to either denigrate someone for not giving their full details, or as what was happening, just outing them when they think they have the true ID.

It got to the sad stage when that particular person tried (unsuccessfully) to out the founders of this site. All I ask is why?

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 9:51 am 
Alex wrote:
It got to the sad stage when that particular person tried (unsuccessfully) to out the founders of this site. All I ask is why?

Because they hasve got nothing better to do.
Sad very sad . :sad:


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 1:24 pm 
Alex wrote:
DAP wrote:
Accusations and statements cannot be made without evidence to substantiate them otherwise we would all be free to say anything we wanted without being checked. Draw a line under recent events and lets get back to proper debates. :-|

I agree DAP, especially with your last comments.

However the issue at hand isn't/wasn't someone's views, goodness knows a site without differing views isn't exactly much fun, it was a member who thinks he is some sort of Sherlock Holmes.

Some members have no problem giving their fun identity, however most wish to keep their identities to themselves. Does either option make someone's views more or less valid?

If someone wishes, for whatever reason, to post under a synonym, who cares? Most of the web works this way, it's the norm. Which makes it so sad that some wish to either denigrate someone for not giving their full details, or as what was happening, just outing them when they think they have the true ID.

It got to the sad stage when that particular person tried (unsuccessfully) to out the founders of this site. All I ask is why?

Alex



Alex you have barred him for that?
because he found out who they were?

jesus christ!


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Yorkie wrote:
Alex wrote:
DAP wrote:
Accusations and statements cannot be made without evidence to substantiate them otherwise we would all be free to say anything we wanted without being checked. Draw a line under recent events and lets get back to proper debates. :-|

I agree DAP, especially with your last comments.

However the issue at hand isn't/wasn't someone's views, goodness knows a site without differing views isn't exactly much fun, it was a member who thinks he is some sort of Sherlock Holmes.

Some members have no problem giving their fun identity, however most wish to keep their identities to themselves. Does either option make someone's views more or less valid?

If someone wishes, for whatever reason, to post under a synonym, who cares? Most of the web works this way, it's the norm. Which makes it so sad that some wish to either denigrate someone for not giving their full details, or as what was happening, just outing them when they think they have the true ID.

It got to the sad stage when that particular person tried (unsuccessfully) to out the founders of this site. All I ask is why?

Alex



Alex you have barred him for that?
because he found out who they were?

jesus christ!


I don't think he did find out who they were but it was perfectly obvious what his intentions were. This site is called Taxi driver online, not private investigators online. Some of us believe and respect a person's right for privacy, Nigel obviously takes a different view.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 3:59 pm 
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Hi Again

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I don't think he did find out who they were but it was perfectly obvious what his intentions were. This site is called Taxi driver online, not private investigators online. Some of us believe and respect a person's right for privacy, Nigel obviously takes a different view.


It Is difficult firstly to take a view on this when has not seen what has been written because it has been deleted, however from my past postings, I think you are all well aware that I for one strongly subcribe to the view that if someone has done an unjust to someone else, then the person who tells the world about it should not be gagged, nor indeed be shot for being the messenger. eusasmiles.zip

If this is the what has happened here then Nidge should be reinststed with imediate effect. :D

If not then I do not know, he never struck me as a s**t stirer for the sake of it, and at the end of the day, is entitled to his opinion, just as we all are.

I am not proud to say I have also had my postings deleted, and yes Lynda was barred for saying what happened to her, yes it is acknowledged she went over the top, but if we can not use this forum to warn others about the sharks out there then quite frankly what is the point of having this board in the first place. :roll:

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Eric the viking wrote:
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I think you are all well aware that I for one strongly subcribe to the view that if someone has done an unjust to someone else, then the person who tells the world about it should not be gagged, nor indeed be shot for being the messenger.


The only injustice that Nigel ever suffered was the fact that he was continually reminded by so many people on this site of the failings in his own arguments. The crusade that Nigel undertook to invade and impinge on the privacy of others had nothing whatsoever to do with any injustice that he may have suffered but had everything to do with his own prejudices.

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If this is the what has happened here then Nidge should be reinststed with imediate effect.


That is evidently not what happened here.

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If not then I do not know, he never struck me as a s**t stirer for the sake of it, and at the end of the day, is entitled to his opinion, just as we all are.


Opinions are welcome, this site doesn't stiffle opinion, if it did each post would be moderated and vetted before it even got to public view. I think you might agree that Publishing someones name, address and telephone number, is hardly opinion. This undoubteldy would have happened if Nigel or his partners in crime had ever got hold of such information. Nigel isn't alone in this little conspiracy I think he has been led by at least one individual but nigel is old enough to understand the consequences of his actions.

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