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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 6:53 pm 
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Have any of you peeps got a PCV Op license ?

If so ( or if you know about these things) could you point me in teh right direction as to how you go about getting one etc

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first you would need a CPC, or employ a CPC holder as a transport manager


http://cpc-centre.co.uk/rev2/

then you apply for the o-licence


http://www.businesslink.gov.uk/Transpor ... V%2074.pdf

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You don't need a transport manager if you are applying for a restricted PCV.

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thanks for the links Wannabe

Its a national license i'll need as its an 18 seater and i think restricted can only do up to 16

I may well be able to employ a transport manaer though so ill look a bit further into that


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grandad wrote:
You don't need a transport manager if you are applying for a restricted PCV.


id heard that particular loophole was being ended?

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If I recall correctly you dont need a Transport Manager If you run 2 or less vehicles of no more that 16 passenger seats each and that the percentage of income these vehicles generate is no more than 40% of your overall gross income of that particular business. and then you can run them on a public service operators licence.

or has all that changed in the last 3 years?


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bloodnock wrote:
If I recall correctly you dont need a Transport Manager If you run 2 or less vehicles of no more that 16 passenger seats each and that the percentage of income these vehicles generate is no more than 40% of your overall gross income of that particular business. and then you can run them on a public service operators licence.

or has all that changed in the last 3 years?


That is a restricted PCV licence.

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wannabeeahack wrote:
grandad wrote:
You don't need a transport manager if you are applying for a restricted PCV.


id heard that particular loophole was being ended?


Why do you think that this is a loophole?

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grandad wrote:
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You don't need a transport manager if you are applying for a restricted PCV.


id heard that particular loophole was being ended?


Why do you think that this is a loophole?

Because it allows unchecked drivers and vehicles to legally take folks from A to B for payment. :sad:

I don't like it, but more importantly neither do the DfT and VOSA. :D

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plus it allows uncontrolled (ish) use of "larger" vehicles without planning controls for noise and nusiance and (fairly) unchecked drives to maybe abuse driver hours?

9-16 passenger seats require a full D1 licence (unless its a limo of course, self drive hire.... :lol: )

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Sussex wrote:
grandad wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
grandad wrote:
You don't need a transport manager if you are applying for a restricted PCV.


id heard that particular loophole was being ended?


Why do you think that this is a loophole?

Because it allows unchecked drivers and vehicles to legally take folks from A to B for payment. :sad:

I don't like it, but more importantly neither do the DfT and VOSA. :D


No It does'nt

Drivers still have to hold a full PCV lincence, vehicles are subject to the same regular inspection rules as the full National licence holders.

You may be getting confused with section 19 permits and voluntary drivers.

Some people have tried to use it instead of local authority for 8 seaters but the TC's are paying closer attention to this situation. They are however licensed.

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you dont need a full (D) PCV licence unless its 17 passengers and up surely?

its a D1 for 9-16 passengers

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wannabeeahack wrote:
you dont need a full (D) PCV licence unless its 17 passengers and up surely?

its a D1 for 9-16 passengers


You do if it is for hire or reward.

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grandad wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
you dont need a full (D) PCV licence unless its 17 passengers and up surely?

its a D1 for 9-16 passengers


You do if it is for hire or reward.



its a D1 for hire and reward 9 to 16 passengers and a D for 17 passengers and over


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D1 is "minibus" (9-16 passenger vehicle)

D is 16+

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