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| Author: | wrexhamdriver [ Sat Mar 05, 2011 3:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Drivers on a Wage |
I am still struggling to recruit drivers and have been trying to think of different ways when it was mentioned to me that other offices pay drivers to work for them, plus I have heard it mentioned on here that some offices do it. Can someone expain how it all works etc? If I pay say £300 per week to the driver to work shifts and provide a car and radio and I work out every shift what he has made and take that etc, who pays for the fuel? Thanks. |
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| Author: | gusmac [ Sat Mar 05, 2011 3:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Drivers on a Wage |
wrexhamdriver wrote: I am still struggling to recruit drivers and have been trying to think of different ways when it was mentioned to me that other offices pay drivers to work for them, plus I have heard it mentioned on here that some offices do it.
Can someone expain how it all works etc? If I pay say £300 per week to the driver to work shifts and provide a car and radio and I work out every shift what he has made and take that etc, who pays for the fuel? Thanks. If the driver is waged, you supply the cab, fuel, pay insurance, licenses, repairs etc and you take all the fares. You also pay employers NI and are responsible for deducting PAYE and NI from the driver's wages, which must be at least the national minimum wage. Driver is entitled to sick pay, paid holidays, and all the other benefits of working for an employer. It's a minefield and that's why most take on self employed drivers. |
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Sat Mar 05, 2011 3:53 pm ] |
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If hes PAYE you also have to pay employer national insurance contributions, SSP, maternity leave,5 weeks holiday pay and 10 bank holidays per year plus after 2 years getting rid isnt quite so simple |
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| Author: | bloodnock [ Sat Mar 05, 2011 3:55 pm ] |
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Quote: Driver is entitled to sick pay, paid holidays, and all the other benefits of working for an employer
Ahhhhhhhhhhhh..the basic Joys of being an emloyee as compared to being self employed!!, I had nearly forgotten all the benefits that went with it 
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Sat Mar 05, 2011 4:03 pm ] |
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Quote: Current NMW rates
There are different levels of NMW, depending on your age and whether you are an apprentice. The current rates are: £5.93 - the main rate for workers aged 21 and over |
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| Author: | grandad [ Sat Mar 05, 2011 6:10 pm ] |
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wannabeeahack wrote: If hes PAYE you also have to pay 5 weeks holiday pay and 10 bank holidays per year
I am not sure where you got this bit from! check out the government website. http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/ ... G_10029788 |
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:26 pm ] |
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ok, a minimum of 5.6 weeks paid leave inc bank holidays Quote: The basics of holiday rights
There is a minimum right to paid holiday, but your employer may offer more than this. The main things you should know about holiday rights are that: you are entitled to a minimum of 5.6 weeks paid annual leave (28 days for someone working five days a week) part-time workers are entitled to the same level of holiday pro rata (so 5.6 times your usual working week, eg 22.4 days for someone working four days a week) you start building up holiday as soon as you start work your employer can control when you take your holiday you get paid your normal pay for your holiday when you finish a job, you get paid for any holiday you have not taken bank and public holidays can be included in your minimum entitlement you continue to be entitled to your holiday leave throughout your ordinary and additional maternity leave and paternity and adoption leave |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Sat Mar 05, 2011 8:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Drivers on a Wage |
wrexhamdriver wrote: If I pay say £300 per week to the driver to work shifts and provide a car and radio and I work out every shift what he has made and take that etc, who pays for the fuel?
You pay for everything. However if you can I would try and put incentives into the package. |
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| Author: | grandad [ Sat Mar 05, 2011 11:54 pm ] |
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wannabeeahack wrote: ok, a minimum of 5.6 weeks paid leave inc bank holidays
Quote: The basics of holiday rights There is a minimum right to paid holiday, but your employer may offer more than this. The main things you should know about holiday rights are that: you are entitled to a minimum of 5.6 weeks paid annual leave (28 days for someone working five days a week) part-time workers are entitled to the same level of holiday pro rata (so 5.6 times your usual working week, eg 22.4 days for someone working four days a week) you start building up holiday as soon as you start work your employer can control when you take your holiday you get paid your normal pay for your holiday when you finish a job, you get paid for any holiday you have not taken bank and public holidays can be included in your minimum entitlement you continue to be entitled to your holiday leave throughout your ordinary and additional maternity leave and paternity and adoption leave And not forgetting there is no automatic right to bank holidays. |
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:51 pm ] |
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PAYE taxi/PH drivers have little incentive to graft or make the extra effort, they are OK on account jobs like schools but for rank/cash work why would they rush?... |
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:52 pm ] |
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Will I automatically get paid leave on public holidays? No. There is no law that says you must have paid leave on public holidays. Any right to paid time off for such holidays depends on the terms of your contract. If your contract doesn't specify this, the right to paid leave may have built up at your company through custom and practice. Your employer can make you take public holidays from your 5.6 weeks' holiday entitlement under the Working Time Regulations 1998. Public holidays include bank holidays, holidays by Royal Proclamation and 'common law holidays'. When the Christmas and New Year period covers a weekend, alternative week days are declared public holidays. Does my employer have to tell me how much holiday I will get? Your employer must include details of your holidays and holiday pay entitlement in: •your written contract, if you have one •a written statement about your job that they must give you when you start work The written statement is required by law: your employer must give it to you no later than two months after they employ you. It should contain enough detail to allow your entitlement to be precisely calculated, including any entitlement you might have to accrued holiday if your employment is terminated. How much annual leave am I entitled to? Most workers - whether part-time or full-time - are legally entitled to 5.6 weeks' paid annual leave. Additional annual leave may be agreed as part of a worker's contract. A week's leave should allow workers to be away from work for a week – ie it should be the same amount of time as the working week. If a worker does a five-day week, he or she is entitled to 28 days leave. If he or she does a three-day week, the entitlement is 16.8 days leave. Employers can set the times that workers take their leave, for example for a Christmas shutdown. If a worker's employment ends, he or she has a right to be paid for the leave time due and not taken. The Work and Families Act does not create a legal right to have a paid day off on Bank Holidays and this remains a contractual matter. |
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| Author: | wrexhamdriver [ Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:47 pm ] |
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Thanks for all the replys. I would prefer to take only self-employed drivers but am having major problems in getting drivers so this seems another route to explore, just was not sure how it worked etc. Is it best to give a fuel allowance etc rather than pay all the fuel as if I pay for all the fuel surely they might just go driving miles when they not working etc. What incentives are does anyone suggest? Also, I am thinking about paying people to go for there badge and have them pay me back once they start but am worried that they might not start and not pay me the money for the badge back? Does anyone know how I would be able to stop this? Thanks |
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:01 pm ] |
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wrexham, you pay thier wages, they do as they are told you pay the fuel and everything else as for badges, you can pay but you you have no guarantees the driver wont feck off and drive for another firm or just jack in, not many wanna stump up and besides, it can take 3 MONTHS to get a badge! you keep an eye on em or tracker thier vehicles so they cant fib if your cars are hacks with meters get the daily totals also record daily mileages and work out MPGs, just in case |
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| Author: | grandad [ Sun Mar 06, 2011 10:35 pm ] |
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The drivers that work for me are on the books for school contracts. If they are new to the job, I pay for their first badge, including the medical. They get holiday pay based on working 16 hours a week. If a driver wants to work any other hours they then pay me per mile that they drive. I have trackers in all the vehicles and I pay for all the fuel and maintenance. The amount that they pay per mile is just enough to cover the running costs of the vehicle. that way the drivers get to keep a lot more of the money they take so they are more likely to work harder. |
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:18 pm ] |
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as a "jockey" i used to get a third of whatever i took, but that was when we could actually make some money not sure it would work now |
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