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So simple but very clever...my kind of technology.

http://www.flixxy.com/convert-plastic-to-oil.htm

bloodnock wrote:

So simple but very clever...my kind of technology.

http://www.flixxy.com/convert-plastic-to-oil.htm

Are you going to get one Blood, just think the job of collecting it is made easy for you, as the good folk in the borders put it out for collection every 2 weeks
Just think the JR of the Borders :lol:

It seems they have a pdf catalogue but are a Japanese company and are not answering emails not sure if the address is in an area hit by the tsunami but they are not putting prices up on the internet you probably have to order one to find out the cost I suspect that the technology is VERY expensive probably above £10K I also note that although they mention several sizes of machine only the smallest is shown in the catalogue and that looks like it might be too big for the average garage

aparently it takes about 3 hours to convert 5kg @4kwh so thats 12KWH to get 4 litres of CRUDE oil plus the cost of operating the refining machine not sure what you pay for leccy but on my domestic prices I think I'll be sticking to what comes from the local petrol station !

But surely the Beauty of a machine which can turn Plastic into oil is that part of that oil can be refined into Fuel oil which could run a generator plant to assist the whole process. If its Green then there would be Government grants and council grants and grants from god knows where else to help pay for it. the only limiting factor would be sourcing available plastics to keep such a plant going.

I know nothing can ever be 100% efficient in respect of energy, but this uns clever as its using the already stored energy captured in the plastic...you could use oil fuelled generators to supply enough electricty to make the process work and it would turn out more Oil than it uses. If it were built near an existing Plastic recycling plant then transport costs would be negligible....Infact the oil produced could run other recycling projects at such a plant.

bloodnock wrote:

Why not send the vid to Ivory towers they are about to buy 3 Peugeot all electric cars for £100,000 :shock:

http://www.mdi.lu/english/cityflowair.php

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 018692314#
Now this could work

Why not send the vid to Ivory towers they are about to buy 3 Peugeot all electric cars for £100,000

skippy41 wrote:

http://www.mdi.lu/english/cityflowair.php

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 018692314#
Now this could work

Is there a WAV version?

Author:	bloodnock [ Mon Apr 11, 2011 12:33 am ]
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So simple but very clever...my kind of technology. http://www.flixxy.com/convert-plastic-to-oil.htm

Author:	skippy41 [ Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:56 am ]
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bloodnock wrote: So simple but very clever...my kind of technology. http://www.flixxy.com/convert-plastic-to-oil.htm Are you going to get one Blood, just think the job of collecting it is made easy for you, as the good folk in the borders put it out for collection every 2 weeks Just think the JR of the Borders

Author:	bloodnock [ Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:18 am ]
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skippy41 wrote: bloodnock wrote: So simple but very clever...my kind of technology. http://www.flixxy.com/convert-plastic-to-oil.htm Are you going to get one Blood, just think the job of collecting it is made easy for you, as the good folk in the borders put it out for collection every 2 weeks Just think the JR of the Borders Dunno Skip...I'll ask SWMBO, she's more of an expert on the continuous use of Plastic than I am

Author:	skippy41 [ Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:28 am ]
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You could buy one of those windmills that on the hills and put it in your garden to run it, save going down to the spar for power cards

Author:	grumpy [ Mon Apr 11, 2011 11:03 am ]
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at first I thought it was an elaborate april fool. but I now realise the only "fool" was me. If they can get the cost right, it may just be a goer.

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Author:	edders23 [ Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:47 am ]
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You would also need a seperate refining machine and another grindering machine to crush and tear the plastic into small chunks for the machine so by the time you have paid duty and VAT to the government it would cost you about £1.60 a litre to produce not allowing for the cost of the machine ! Remember it takes a lot of energy to turn the plastic into oil which then has to be refined into its constiuent fractions only some of which are useable as diesel or petrol

Author:	skippy41 [ Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:09 am ]
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http://www.mdi.lu/english/cityflowair.php http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 018692314# Now this could work

Author:	edders23 [ Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:13 am ]
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It seems they have a pdf catalogue but are a Japanese company and are not answering emails not sure if the address is in an area hit by the tsunami but they are not putting prices up on the internet you probably have to order one to find out the cost I suspect that the technology is VERY expensive probably above £10K I also note that although they mention several sizes of machine only the smallest is shown in the catalogue and that looks like it might be too big for the average garage aparently it takes about 3 hours to convert 5kg @4kwh so thats 12KWH to get 4 litres of CRUDE oil plus the cost of operating the refining machine not sure what you pay for leccy but on my domestic prices I think I'll be sticking to what comes from the local petrol station !

Author:	skippy41 [ Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:08 am ]
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edders23 wrote: It seems they have a pdf catalogue but are a Japanese company and are not answering emails not sure if the address is in an area hit by the tsunami but they are not putting prices up on the internet you probably have to order one to find out the cost I suspect that the technology is VERY expensive probably above £10K I also note that although they mention several sizes of machine only the smallest is shown in the catalogue and that looks like it might be too big for the average garage aparently it takes about 3 hours to convert 5kg @4kwh so thats 12KWH to get 4 litres of CRUDE oil plus the cost of operating the refining machine not sure what you pay for leccy but on my domestic prices I think I'll be sticking to what comes from the local petrol station ! You have a point there Edd, but the compressed air taxi is closer to production, the first 2 in on there site are already on the roads

Author:	bloodnock [ Thu Apr 14, 2011 2:11 pm ]
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But surely the Beauty of a machine which can turn Plastic into oil is that part of that oil can be refined into Fuel oil which could run a generator plant to assist the whole process. If its Green then there would be Government grants and council grants and grants from god knows where else to help pay for it. the only limiting factor would be sourcing available plastics to keep such a plant going. I know nothing can ever be 100% efficient in respect of energy, but this uns clever as its using the already stored energy captured in the plastic...you could use oil fuelled generators to supply enough electricty to make the process work and it would turn out more Oil than it uses. If it were built near an existing Plastic recycling plant then transport costs would be negligible....Infact the oil produced could run other recycling projects at such a plant.

Author:	skippy41 [ Thu Apr 14, 2011 2:17 pm ]
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bloodnock wrote: But surely the Beauty of a machine which can turn Plastic into oil is that part of that oil can be refined into Fuel oil which could run a generator plant to assist the whole process. If its Green then there would be Government grants and council grants and grants from god knows where else to help pay for it. the only limiting factor would be sourcing available plastics to keep such a plant going. I know nothing can ever be 100% efficient in respect of energy, but this uns clever as its using the already stored energy captured in the plastic...you could use oil fuelled generators to supply enough electricty to make the process work and it would turn out more Oil than it uses. If it were built near an existing Plastic recycling plant then transport costs would be negligible....Infact the oil produced could run other recycling projects at such a plant. Why not send the vid to Ivory towers they are about to buy 3 Peugeot all electric cars for £100,000

Author:	bloodnock [ Thu Apr 14, 2011 2:36 pm ]
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skippy41 wrote: bloodnock wrote: But surely the Beauty of a machine which can turn Plastic into oil is that part of that oil can be refined into Fuel oil which could run a generator plant to assist the whole process. If its Green then there would be Government grants and council grants and grants from god knows where else to help pay for it. the only limiting factor would be sourcing available plastics to keep such a plant going. I know nothing can ever be 100% efficient in respect of energy, but this uns clever as its using the already stored energy captured in the plastic...you could use oil fuelled generators to supply enough electricty to make the process work and it would turn out more Oil than it uses. If it were built near an existing Plastic recycling plant then transport costs would be negligible....Infact the oil produced could run other recycling projects at such a plant. Why not send the vid to Ivory towers they are about to buy 3 Peugeot all electric cars for £100,000 Uhh huh...the same three leccy cars that can only be used in the towns where the Social workers who are to use them are based because they dont have the range to cover the rest of the region. And they are so bloody crafty about the stated running costs of these leccy cars, they say its only 10 per mile....thats as maybe, but a small Petrol/Diesel car could be run for the same price per mile in respect to fuel costs only. But they say an equivelant Petrol/Diesel car costs 42 pence per mile simply because they conveniently forgot to add in servicing costs, Insurance costs, Tyre Costs, vehicle Depreciation costs and more importantly they forgot to factor in that each of these little Buzz wagons cost £33,000 each before Governments subsidies. Add all that together and a truer Running cost per mile would something like £1.50 for each mile travelled over the leccy vehicles life as compared to the 42 pence stated for the Petrol/Diesel car they compare it with. Its bugger all to do with being green....Leccy still has to be made and so does the cars Body, component parts and battery. No, its all to do with being seen to be trendy at any cost in a vehicle that can only do half as much.

Author:	gusmac [ Thu Apr 14, 2011 3:59 pm ]
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skippy41 wrote: http://www.mdi.lu/english/cityflowair.php http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 018692314# Now this could work Is there a WAV version?

Author:	gusmac [ Thu Apr 14, 2011 4:05 pm ]
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Quote: Why not send the vid to Ivory towers they are about to buy 3 Peugeot all electric cars for £100,000 Aberdeen had a few of these. One drawback (of many) was people stepping out in front of them because they couldn't hear them coming...............

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Author:	skippy41 [ Thu Apr 14, 2011 6:46 pm ]
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gusmac wrote: skippy41 wrote: http://www.mdi.lu/english/cityflowair.php http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 018692314# Now this could work Is there a WAV version? They are showing different seating arrangements so that could be a possibility the version they are showing has a small Genny to refill the tanks on the move but without it it can go 130K or 100 miles and only takes 1.5 Min's to recharge at a garage air pump If you go to there home page and click on the different models all the specs are below them