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Author:  Sussex [ Tue May 03, 2005 8:03 pm ]
Post subject:  April/May Cab Trade News

It was with much merriment that I read the latest CTN. :lol: I see that the T&G have a new officer for their Cab Section to replace the busman. And guess what he is? Yes another busman. :lol:

I also read countless comments telling us all who to vote for. One bright spark even says that a vote for Labour is not a vote for Blair. :lol: Thank goodness CTN has cleared that one up for us. :lol:

But the cherry on top of the cake has got to be the preaching of a certain Nigel Marchart. :shock:

We were promised something about a certain DS, but maybe that particular lie has finally run its course. But we were given the fact that deregulation leads to more cabs. This from the man that flags up every time a driver leaves his local cab trade. :lol:

We were also told by him that takings had dropped 40%, but hang on a bit, is this the same Nigel Marchant that belly-ached when his council passed a decent fare rise? :-k

But there is one thing I can't quite make out, and that's who he is referring to when he says "You don't have to go far to read the bile from a certain website supporting deregulation". He then says, "they just laugh at you".

Well Nigel, on that we agree, we do indeed just laugh at you. :lol: :lol:

Author:  JD [ Tue May 03, 2005 8:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: April/May Cab Trade News

Sussex wrote:
It was with much merriment that I read the latest CTN. :lol: I see that the T&G have a new officer for their Cab Section to replace the busman. And guess what he is? Yes another busman. :lol:

I also read countless comments telling us all who to vote for. One bright spark even says that a vote for Labour is not a vote for Blair. :lol: Thank goodness CTN has cleared that one up for us. :lol:

But the cherry on top of the cake has got to be the preaching of a certain Nigel Marchart. :shock:

We were promised something about a certain DS, but maybe that particular lie has finally run its course. But we were given the fact that deregulation leads to more cabs. This from the man that flags up every time a driver leaves his local cab trade. :lol:

We were also told by him that takings had dropped 40%, but hang on a bit, is this the same Nigel Marchant that belly-ached when his council passed a decent fare rise? :-k

But there is one thing I can't quite make out, and that's who he is referring to when he says "You don't have to go far to read the bile from a certain website supporting deregulation". He then says, "they just laugh at you".

Well Nigel, on that we agree, we do indeed just laugh at you. :lol: :lol:


It would be easy to criticise the man from Mansfield but seeing as how he isn't here to defend himself I'll refrain from doing so. I'll just say 89,000 miles per year for 200 pound per week is about as credible as he gets.

Regards

JD

Author:  TDO [ Tue May 03, 2005 11:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: April/May Cab Trade News

Sussex wrote:
We were also told by him that takings had dropped 40%, but hang on a bit, is this the same Nigel Marchant that belly-ached when his council passed a decent fare rise? :-k



Maybe he was comparing it with when he was getting free plates in Ashfield and selling them on, and including that in his turnover.

Or maybe he can't get the drivers, now that they can work for themselves.

And I thought the T&G disliked two-tier workforces. :lol:

Author:  Guest [ Wed May 04, 2005 5:49 pm ]
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I like the bit about the t&g asking members if they can help out if they have a second tongue to help migrant workers.
Itas nice to know that the T&g black cab boys will be helping out the touts with directions. :lol:

Author:  TDO [ Thu May 05, 2005 5:47 pm ]
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Hmm...I don't think anyone should have said anything here.

It seems that Mr Marchant is allowed to denigrate and defame TDO, but if anyone says anything in response then it's 'sniping' and 'having a pop'.

Well that's us told [-X

Typical do as I say, not as I do.

Author:  Ollie [ Thu May 05, 2005 6:22 pm ]
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It has got to be the case that some members of the t&g must be decent and sensible chaps.

Its just that I have only come across the others.

Author:  Guest [ Sat May 07, 2005 5:40 pm ]
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Ollie wrote:
It has got to be the case that some members of the t&g must be decent and sensible chaps.

Its just that I have only come across the others.

The bloke in charge down here isnt a bad lad, ex copper i think.
Its just that his meetings get hijacked by the idiots which lead them to have idiot policies.

Author:  Ollie [ Sat May 07, 2005 9:26 pm ]
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Also not a great fan of unions telling everyone what our views are.

But I quite like the lad from the GMB. Even if he is more left wing that Tony Benn. :shock:

Author:  Sussex [ Sun May 08, 2005 6:07 pm ]
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TDO wrote:
It seems that Mr Marchant is allowed to denigrate and defame TDO, but if anyone says anything in response then it's 'sniping' and 'having a pop'.

And not one of them has got the bollocks to say that both Nigel and the Angel :^o :^o lied through their teeth. :shock:

Author:  Guest [ Sun May 08, 2005 8:06 pm ]
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Even captain Scab hasn't got the balls to say he was wrong believing them.
Now he the moderator of said forum. :lol: :lol:

NTA T&G all the same. :^o

Author:  Sussex [ Sun May 08, 2005 9:09 pm ]
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Cgull wrote:
NTA T&G all the same. :^o

To a degree you could be right.

But like anything else, it's only as good as its members, and leadership, allow it to be. :roll:

Author:  JD [ Mon May 09, 2005 11:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: April/May Cab Trade News

Sussex wrote:
But we were given the fact that deregulation leads to more cabs. This from the man that flags up every time a driver leaves his local cab trade. :lol:



That's an astute observation by Mr Marchant and no doubt he drew the conclusion that more cabs in some cases means less earnings. That's understandable but there are those that think more cabs also means greater availability to the public. One wonder's why he gilded his own Lilly at the expense of the people to whom the service is supposed to cater for.

We all know that in Public the so called representatives of the Cab trade along with the good and the faithful like to put across the fact that having more Hackney cabs does not necessarily mean a greater supply to the public.

I've always been confounded by this oblong view of supply and demand, it is also striking how no one in the trade has ever come up with a credible reason as to why less means more? If the NTA and the TGWU really believe that less means more then why are they so afraid of councils exercising their right to determine their own Taxi policy? Apart from hygiene why does Mr. T need a complete change of underwear every time he gets up in the morning? I'll tell you why, its because he constantly chits himself at the thought of his local council delimiting numbers. That’s the true facts of why these people embarked on the brain washing policy that "more equals less".

Mr Waayne Cassey of the NTA who resides in Carlisle and writes for Taxi Talk magazine said that "Since de restriction there are now more Cabs available on a Friday, Saturday and Sunday night, than there were before de restriction".

Mr Cassey may or may not be aware of when he made that statement but he certainly said it. So what does that tell us? It tells us exactly what we already knew, that more cabs equate to a greater supply to the public and thanks to Mr. Cassey that fact it is now common knowledge.

I don't know if Mr Cassey's observation of the situation in Carlisle was meant to inform the NTA of the facts regarding delimitation but it appears Mr Cassey's message didn't get through to either the NTA or many other sections of the Taxi Trade. The NTA and TGWU rightly or wrongly trump out the same line that in respect of Taxis more does not necessarily mean greater availability to the public and in their opinion more actually means less.

The "more means less" concept is derived from the fact that Both the NTA and the TGWU would have us believe that limited double shifted cabs are on the go 24 hours a day. Well we all know that is not the case. In fact in Trafford, Tameside and Salford you can't get a Cab After 3 am on a Friday, Saturday and Sunday morning. On Sunday daytime in Trafford and Salford you might as well forget about getting a cab they are non existent, likewise through the week in the early morning hours after midnight. So for at least one day a week it is extremely hard to get a hackney in Trafford and Salford and between the hours of 3 am and 7 am every day of the week you certainly won't get one.

I haven't read Mr Marchants offering and I doubt that I ever will. His ability to insert fiction for fact in almost everything that he writes is not a quality I admire.

If Cab trade News can find space for the views of Mr Marchant then they are welcome to him. Perhaps those who are looking for a more balanced argument would be better served by reading TDO.

Regards

JD

Author:  Guest [ Mon May 09, 2005 9:03 pm ]
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Oh they dont like it up em on the other site. Quite rude about me.
shame that they cant bear to here a 100% taxi owner driver think that his mates should be as welll.
how can they support people who dont have a license over thiose that do i will never know.
But as then more knwoledgable on this site point out. more cab drivers drivre in deregulated areas than in regulated ones.
Does the otyher site think they are all, wrong.

Author:  Sussex [ Tue May 10, 2005 7:30 am ]
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Cgull wrote:
Oh they dont like it up em on the other site. Quite rude about me.

You could well be right Mr Cgull, but if you weren't making valid points, then they would simply ignore and forget you.

But their set up just shows that I don't know it all. Yes I know many will find that hard to believe, but for the first time in my life I was wrong 100%, and ignored people who were 100% correct.

What the correct people told me was that I shouldn't trust a certain person. I told them I'm usually a very good judge of a person. How wrong was I? :sad:

Now this person has got into bed with someone who has been calling me a liar for the last six months. Still we live and learn.

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