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Author:  2leftfeet [ Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:35 pm ]
Post subject:  school contracts and insurance

the system for tendering for school contracts as all changed in cheshire east and now all goes through the chest and all done online ,we have just recieved a invitation to tender which is 31 pages long :shock: one of the requirements it is asking for is public liability insurance min 5mil ,now as a sole trader hackney taxi with fully comp insurance in place doesnt my taxi insurance cover me for liability or do you think they require seperate liability insurance ,its mind boggling some of the things there asking #-o

Author:  Sussex [ Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: school contracts and insurance

2leftfeet wrote:
now as a sole trader hackney taxi with fully comp insurance in place doesnt my taxi insurance cover me for liability or do you think they require seperate liability insurance ,its mind boggling some of the things there asking #-o

Your insurance will cover you up to an amount, you will need to speak to your broker to either confirm you are there already, or get a price to upgrade.

That said 5 million doesn't sound that much to me.

Author:  grandad [ Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: school contracts and insurance

Sussex wrote:
2leftfeet wrote:
now as a sole trader hackney taxi with fully comp insurance in place doesnt my taxi insurance cover me for liability or do you think they require seperate liability insurance ,its mind boggling some of the things there asking #-o

Your insurance will cover you up to an amount, you will need to speak to your broker to either confirm you are there already, or get a price to upgrade.

That said 5 million doesn't sound that much to me.

£5 million is standard on my insurance. Our council require £10 million public liability. It is not that expensive to obtain, mainly because there are very few, if any claims made against it.

Author:  2leftfeet [ Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: school contracts and insurance

cheers guys thats what i thought i will check my policy out ,this is how the council have worded it

1) £5 million public liability insurance is required in respect of each and every claim

2)£10 million employers liability insurance is required in respect of each and every claim


as im not a employer but a sole trader and my reserve drivers are all hackney sole traders then i take it employers liability insurance is not needed
it seems after 11 yrs of doing school contracts and never letting them down once this does not count anymore ,fail this invitation to tender or if you dont meet the criteria you have had it ,hence im going over it with a fine toothcomb

Author:  grandad [ Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: school contracts and insurance

2leftfeet wrote:
cheers guys thats what i thought i will check my policy out ,this is how the council have worded it

1) £5 million public liability insurance is required in respect of each and every claim

2)£10 million employers liability insurance is required in respect of each and every claim


as im not a employer but a sole trader and my reserve drivers are all hackney sole traders then i take it employers liability insurance is not needed
it seems after 11 yrs of doing school contracts and never letting them down once this does not count anymore ,fail this invitation to tender or if you dont meet the criteria you have had it ,hence im going over it with a fine toothcomb

Whilst going through it with your fine tooth comb, I would look out for a clause regarding sub contracting the work. If you are using owner drivers to cover the work you may have a problem. I have a combined liability policy that covers both public liability and employers liability. It costs about £40-50 per driver per year.

Author:  bloodnock [ Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: school contracts and insurance

2leftfeet wrote:
cheers guys thats what i thought i will check my policy out ,this is how the council have worded it

1) £5 million public liability insurance is required in respect of each and every claim

2)£10 million employers liability insurance is required in respect of each and every claim


as im not a employer but a sole trader and my reserve drivers are all hackney sole traders then i take it employers liability insurance is not needed
it seems after 11 yrs of doing school contracts and never letting them down once this does not count anymore ,fail this invitation to tender or if you dont meet the criteria you have had it ,hence im going over it with a fine toothcomb


your quite right..you Dont need employee Liability if you do not have Employees.

A lot of the things they probably ask are downloadable and easily tweaked to suit from the Internet.

Things Like, Environmental policy, Health And safety Policy and Maintenance policy etc...you'll can find something to doctor to suit your own needs...Honestly, Those thirty Odd pages are not so difficult to fill in if you think about it carefully. As Councils are new to it as well then you can pretty much make up your own policies on things simply because there is no recognisable benchmark...and putting down something in writing is better than nothing at all.. :badgrin:

Author:  2leftfeet [ Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: school contracts and insurance

bloodnock wrote:
2leftfeet wrote:
cheers guys thats what i thought i will check my policy out ,this is how the council have worded it

1) £5 million public liability insurance is required in respect of each and every claim

2)£10 million employers liability insurance is required in respect of each and every claim


as im not a employer but a sole trader and my reserve drivers are all hackney sole traders then i take it employers liability insurance is not needed
it seems after 11 yrs of doing school contracts and never letting them down once this does not count anymore ,fail this invitation to tender or if you dont meet the criteria you have had it ,hence im going over it with a fine toothcomb


your quite right..you Dont need employee Liability if you do not have Employees.

A lot of the things they probably ask are downloadable and easily tweaked to suit from the Internet.

Things Like, Environmental policy, Health And safety Policy and Maintenance policy etc...you'll can find something to doctor to suit your own needs...Honestly, Those thirty Odd pages are not so difficult to fill in if you think about it carefully. As Councils are new to it as well then you can pretty much make up your own policies on things simply because there is no recognisable benchmark...and putting down something in writing is better than nothing at all.. :badgrin:

many thanks bloodnock you have hit the nail on the head ,do you know of any good links i could try for all of the above ,but please bear in mind posting on tdo is about my pc skills :oops:

Author:  bloodnock [ Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: school contracts and insurance

PM me with your Email addy, I'll try and dig out the ones I used and attach them to it..

Author:  2leftfeet [ Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: school contracts and insurance

bloodnock wrote:
PM me with your Email addy, I'll try and dig out the ones I used and attach them to it..

many thanks ,e/mail addy sent :wink:

Author:  wannabeeahack [ Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: school contracts and insurance

Under EU law, all must first "virtual" tender to get on the "framework" Staffs CC require £10,000,000 public liability, luckily LV include this in my policy

All who tender must be told where they came in the tendering, some councils will show all tender rsult details

(checkout 507518 highest vs winning bids!)

http://www.leics.gov.uk/tenderresults-92.htm

Author:  wannabeeahack [ Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: school contracts and insurance

BTW, anyone who employs less than 5 does not require all the H&S, Ethnic, work training borrox either...

Author:  grandad [ Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: school contracts and insurance

wannabeeahack wrote:
Under EU law, all must first "virtual" tender to get on the "framework" Staffs CC require £10,000,000 public liability, luckily LV include this in my policy

All who tender must be told where they came in the tendering, some councils will show all tender rsult details

(checkout 507518 highest vs winning bids!)

http://www.leics.gov.uk/tenderresults-92.htm

That used to be one of our contracts. We were getting £50 per day for it. One of the service users is in a wheelchair and there was never anyone to get her ready in the mornings or to receiver her at night. We could spend 20 minutes getting her ready in the morning, something that we were not contracted to do. Eventually the time taken in the afternoon to drop the passengers off made it impossible for us to get to the next job on time so because this was just one day a week we let it go. The company who now has the contract are welcome to it, especially at the stupid price they are doing it for.

Author:  wannabeeahack [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: school contracts and insurance

was yours the highest bid then GD?....lol

Author:  grandad [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: school contracts and insurance

wannabeeahack wrote:
was yours the highest bid then GD?....lol

No, I did not bid on the job this time round.

Author:  bloodnock [ Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: school contracts and insurance

We never get to see get to see the winning bids of the Mini tenders, Nor do we get to see the Various prices submitted by other succesful Operators on the Framework..All we get is to find out our relevant placing on the framework list of who the LA should be asking first.

The Trouble with not seeing other Hi/LoTendered prices on the mini tender is that we Cant smell a rat because we do not know what the rat's smell like.. :?

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