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| Author: | Mr PH [ Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Private parking tickets/invoices |
Have you ever had one of these? Did you pay up or ignore? Some airports charge for dropping passengers off and are sending demands for £100 to motorists who stopped for 30 seconds to alight passengers. I am currently ignoring an invoice from Total parking solutions. I have had 5 letters threatening lots of nasty things 
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| Author: | bloodnock [ Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Private parking tickets/invoices |
Mr PH wrote: Have you ever had one of these? Did you pay up or ignore? Some airports charge for dropping passengers off and are sending demands for £100 to motorists who stopped for 30 seconds to alight passengers. I am currently ignoring an invoice from Total parking solutions. I have had 5 letters threatening lots of nasty things Ignore Ignore Ignore....its probably illegal anyway, it would cost them more to take it to and defend it at a small claims court, you can defend yourself for free if it ever went that far but they would need to hire legal professionals and as its a small claim they'd have to pay for costs(win or Lose)....and more than likely it would be thrown out because of a lack of clarity on their behalf because the signage was sh1te... Had similar..got my solicitors 15 minute free advice chat. Besides...you Already probably paid them a quid or so which their OCR gate hopper happily accepted. Screw them. |
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| Author: | Mr PH [ Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Private parking tickets/invoices |
Thanks bloodnock. I have done research after getting the PCN and there are a lot of lies surrounding these invoices. The chances of it seeing court are very remote and a decent defence would defeat the Parking co. and they know it. |
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| Author: | edders23 [ Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Private parking tickets/invoices |
which airport and were you dropping off or picking up ? |
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| Author: | Sussex [ Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Private parking tickets/invoices |
Mr PH wrote: Have you ever had one of these? Did you pay up or ignore? Some airports charge for dropping passengers off and are sending demands for £100 to motorists who stopped for 30 seconds to alight passengers. I am currently ignoring an invoice from Total parking solutions. I have had 5 letters threatening lots of nasty things The pepipoo site is the daddy of all things parking. There they have every letter you will get from every scammer. And the folks who know this stuff inside out say ignore and ignore and ignore.
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| Author: | gusmac [ Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Private parking tickets/invoices |
Sussex wrote: ignore and ignore and ignore. That's about as good advice as you're going to get. Keep the letters in the bathroom. Handy if you run out of bogroll
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| Author: | sasha [ Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Private parking tickets/invoices |
And remember the offence is commited by the driver - and any subsequent legal action is against them, not the owner. The owner of the vehicle is under no obligation to provide details of who the driver was and if the parking co. can't prove the drivers identity they can't take any action. And as you were'nt the driver.... 
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| Author: | Mr PH [ Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Private parking tickets/invoices |
I'm glad to see people here are clued up on this. Spread the word to everyone. The invoice I got wasn't airport just a local carpark and I committed the heinous crime of walking across the road to another shop for 10 minutes. I read about Luton airport here http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/sho ... ?t=3027572 |
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| Author: | Nidge2 [ Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Private parking tickets/invoices |
Mr PH wrote: Have you ever had one of these? Did you pay up or ignore? Some airports charge for dropping passengers off and are sending demands for £100 to motorists who stopped for 30 seconds to alight passengers. I am currently ignoring an invoice from Total parking solutions. I have had 5 letters threatening lots of nasty things Just rip them up and don't contact them at all. They'll threaten you with the debt collectors who are a fake company, they'll most likley be on the next desk in the same office. http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=46975 When dealing with "tickets" from private parking companies (PPCs) our advice is ignore them. For the following reasons, you should not enter into any correspondence with private parking companies. This link will take you to a You Tube video of a BBC Watchdog piece on PPCs. There is a great deal of doubt about the legal enforceability of private parking invoices that are issued to motorists. Unlike parking tickets issued by local authorities, which are backed by statute, the enforcement of private parking is essentially a matter of contract law. A private parking company needs to overcome many significant legal hurdles in order to be successful, which include: •Establishing that any claim is under the law of contract, rather than the tort of trespass (see case of Excel Parking Services v Alan Matthews, Wrexham County Court, May 2009 where the parking company lost on this ground); •Establishing that all of the elements of a contract (offer, acceptance, consideration) are present; •Establishing who the driver was on the relevant occasion, as any contract can only be enforced against the driver, who may or may not be the registered keeper of the vehicle; •Establishing the prominence and adequacy of any warning signage, and that the driver actually saw and understood the signage (Waltham Forest v Vine [CCRTF 98/1290/B2]); •Establishing that the amount claimed is not an unlawful “penalty”, including that there was no attempt to “frighten and intimidate” the driver (see well reported case of Excel Parking Services v Hetherington-Jakeman, Mansfield County Court, March 2008 where the parking company lost on this ground); •Establishing that any contract does not fail foul of the Unfair Contract Terms Act and associated regulations. How do you know if your ticket is a PPC ticket or not? Well, legitimate council tickets will be called a "Penalty Charge Notice" or "Excess Charge Notice" and will have the council's address on them. A police ticket will be called a "Fixed Penalty Notice" and have either a police or HM Courts Service address on it. If it's not called one of the above and it's got a private address on it then the chances are that it's a PPC "ticket", and ought to be ignored. That should clear it all up. |
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| Author: | Brummie Cabbie [ Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Private parking tickets/invoices |
Mr PH wrote: Have you ever had one of these? Did you pay up or ignore? Some airports charge for dropping passengers off and are sending demands for £100 to motorists who stopped for 30 seconds to alight passengers. I am currently ignoring an invoice from Total parking solutions. I have had 5 letters threatening lots of nasty things One of the best ways with this type of letter is to put it in a padded envelope and fill it with as much paper as you can so it's heavy, address it back to them and don't put a stamp on the envelope. They will pay the postage at the other end hopind and believing there may be a payment inside because that's what the collect, payments. Do it twice, everything stops. |
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| Author: | 187ums [ Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Private parking tickets/invoices |
Quote: One of the best ways with this type of letter is to put it in a padded envelope and fill it with as much paper as you can so it's heavy, address it back to them and don't put a stamp on the envelope. you actually tried it? |
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