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Author:  MattDavies86 [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:37 am ]
Post subject:  Research into alternative fuel vehicles

Hi all,

I am conducting some research into the challenges the taxi industry may face with alternative fuel vehicles. It would be greatly appreciated if any drivers could complete the following online survey. This is entirely anonymous and should take no more than 10 minutes to complete. Please follow the link underneath to the survey.

http://freeonlinesurveys.com/s.asp?sid=jgxqwypngny5hax100748

Many thanks.

Author:  wannabeeahack [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:09 pm ]
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Please send me a Modeo sized 100% leccy vehicle with its own onboard genny (i.e. fuel cell) and no batteries, and 150mpg at least

sorted

Author:  sasha [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:16 pm ]
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Done.
However, if you're reading this, it's a bit pointless as it all boils down to three things - price, range and charge time (the latter which is missing from your survey !)

No good paying double for a vehicle which only does 70 miles on a charge and then takes 12 hours to recharge before you can do another 70 miles, certainly if there's two drivers using the car for most of the day.

Once there's a car that can do 200 miles on a 3 hour charge for the same price as a Mondeo then I'll be interested.

Author:  wee eddie [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:22 pm ]
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sasha: Amen to all that.

Author:  wannabeeahack [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:27 pm ]
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sasha wrote:
Done.
However, if you're reading this, it's a bit pointless as it all boils down to three things - price, range and charge time (the latter which is missing from your survey !)

No good paying double for a vehicle which only does 70 miles on a charge and then takes 12 hours to recharge before you can do another 70 miles, certainly if there's two drivers using the car for most of the day.

Once there's a car that can do 200 miles on a 3 hour charge for the same price as a Mondeo then I'll be interested.


I said "no batteries", i dont want "charging", I want a onboard power supply and 4 electric motors (one each corner) like the Jaguar was supposed to have been...

a small gas turbine drives a genny

I need 400 miles/24 hours and average speed is no more than 35mph, and thats due to a few miles at 70mph or it would oly average 25mph

Quote:
Jaguar has unveiled a new supercar that has much in common with a jet plane. It'll accelerate quicker than a Lamborghini LP640, has a greater top speed than a Ferrari 458 Italia, and spews out fewer emissions than a Toyota Prius. Behold, friends, the holy grail of motoring: the Jaguar C-X75.

The car is a range-extended electric vehicle. In other words, it's powered primarily by electric motors and a battery pack, but it's given extra range (and performance) by an external power source that, in this case, is rather unusual.

At each wheel, Jaguar's installed an electric motor, each of which delivers 145kW (195bhp) of power. These are driven by a floor-mounted lithium-ion battery pack that can drive the vehicle for 68 miles on ordinary electric power alone. When it runs out of juice, it can be topped up via a standard household mains outlet or be given a boost via two 70kW (94bhp) micro gas turbines.

These gas turbines get their power from a flow of combustion gas -- diesel, biofuels, compressed natural gas, or liquified petroleum gas (the C-X75 has a 60-litre tank that accommodates all four). This fuel is mixed with air and ignited to charge the car's batteries to extend its range, but can also be used to power the electric motors directly in order to boost performance -- a lot.

With the batteries and turbines working in tandem, Jaguar believes the car will do 0-60mph in 3.4 seconds and hit a top speed of 205mph. Apparently, it'll even accelerate from 50-90mph in just 2.3 seconds and do a quarter-mile sprint in just 10.3 seconds, so there's a strong chance it'll be quicker than almost anything
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Author:  skippy41 [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:30 pm ]
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They should be putting all there resources into much better diesel vehicles and trying to get them nearer to a 100 MPG urban figure and even more reliable
All this technology is a waist of time at the moment, come back when you can say the car will never need recharging and will be ready to go anywhere 24/7 and the priced around 10K

Author:  wannabeeahack [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:48 pm ]
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once upon a time a diesel was simple, strong and ran for years with just oil changes.....

why have i got 130BHP when (TBH) 90 would be plenty - IF it gave better MPG, I dont need an urban missile to get Mrs Jones to Tesco and little johhny to school, its mental

why have they created diesels the WONT run on waste oils?....

my Montego did 50mpg 20 years ago, wheres the benefit of a DMF, an ECU, and EGR, etc, etc...

Author:  Sussex [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 6:23 pm ]
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MattDavies86 wrote:
I am conducting some research into the challenges the taxi industry may face with alternative fuel vehicles. It would be greatly appreciated if any drivers could complete the following online survey. This is entirely anonymous and should take no more than 10 minutes to complete. Please follow the link underneath to the survey.

The main thing is the distance you can travel before a recharge and the availability/ease of the recharge.

Until that is addressed its good old diesel.

Author:  wannabeeahack [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 6:42 pm ]
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I simply do not accept that the major car manufacturers have no viable working electric car (family sized and not looking like Coco the clown owns it, and more than 30 mile range)

What I do think is that the major CAR builders also own/run the biggest ENGINE plants, now if you had 50,000 staff and 100 billion quid invested in petrol/diesel engine building would you want a 100% leccy car to dump your staff on the dole and render your plants useless?....

Author:  wannabeeahack [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:41 pm ]
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Multi-fuel gas turbine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPlMfQszkWI

Author:  Nidge2 [ Wed Sep 05, 2012 5:39 am ]
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These cars that run on nothing will never be released, just think about the implications for the Government, no income via fuel duty, no road tax the list is endless.

Author:  wannabeeahack [ Wed Sep 05, 2012 10:21 am ]
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fossil fuel WILL run out, on that day all the major car firms will run out the leccy cars they have been holding back

we will only have wind farms, neuclear and hydro leccy plants to charge em up with tho....

there are some interesting DIY projects on youtube that put Ford and GM to shame

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