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Author:  Brummie Cabbie [ Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:34 am ]
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Fresh call for Birmingham Airport expansion

30 August 2012 Updated: 4 September 2012, 12:04

A group of MPs, businesspeople and councillors have made fresh calls for the expansion of Birmingham Airport to ease pressure on Heathrow.

City council leader John Mutton is among those to put his name to a letter published in today's Daily Telegraph.

It said the long term of Birmingham Airport as a major gateway at the centre of the UK would reduce unproductive surface travel time and leave Heathrow as a gateway for London and the South East.

Current spare runway capacity at Birmingham means it could handle an extra 27 million passengers a year.

It is also considered the country's most accessible in Britain because of its location at the heart of the rail and motorway networks.

"A ‘hub airport’ in the South East favours a small, congested, and already economically strong part of the country. We need gateways close to the manufacturing, research and development of the Midlands and the North, linking these regions directly to emerging markets," the letter says.

"Overseas investors are discouraged from investing where there are no global links. For Britain, over-reliance on one large, full airport, risks national resilience and leads the rest of the world to believe there is just one gateway to this country.

"Airports in our great industrial cities have huge spare capacity.

"Birmingham Airport and NEC station will be the hub of the proposed HS2 network. With its proposed second runway, Birmingham’s spare capacity could rise to over 50 million and create 50,000 jobs.

"As local politicians and business leaders, we call on Government to encourage and assist airports to work with local enterprise partnerships and stakeholders.

"Infrastructure planning needs to provide confidence for airports to be able to plan well into the future. The Government must support expansion of Birmingham’s airport to maximise the regional growth.”

The letter has been signed by 20 Conservative and 10 Labour MPs and MEPs in addition to council leaders, Chambers of Commerce and many businesses from the Midlands.

Jerry Blackett, chief executive of Birmingham Chamber of Commerce Group, said: "Clearly, Birmingham Airport has the capacity to reduce the over-heating South-East immediately.

"For businesses in the West Midlands the development of Birmingham Airport as a major gateway is essential so that we can develop direct air links with places like the west coast of America and the Far East, particularly China, for the movement of people and goods."

In response to the letter Paul Kehoe, chief executive of Birmingham Airport, added: "Unlike other UK airports, we are in a unique position to grow in size straight away.

"As the debate rolls on over the shape of Britain's future aviation strategy, we could literally double the number of passengers through the airport tomorrow.

"In a few years' time, following the completion of our runway extension, we could handle over 36 million passengers a year."

To The Editor, Daily Telegraph,

With the current debate raging about the future of the UK aviation, focus remains that a 'hub airport' in the South East offers a single solution to the future aviation needs of the United Kingdom. But this continues to favour a small, congested, and already economically strong part of the country. The current debate apparently ignores the immediate and future economic needs of the UK as a whole.

Economic rebalance around the regions will help resuscitate our wider economy. To secure growth, we need gateways close to the manufacturing, research and development of the Midlands and the north, linking these regions directly to BRIC and other emerging markets.

Evidence suggests overseas investors are discouraged from investing where there are no global links. For the UK, over-reliance on one large, full airport, risks national resilience and leads the rest of the world to believe there is just one gateway to this country.

Airports in our great industrial cities have huge spare capacity. In the West Midlands, Birmingham Airport’s current spare runway capacity is 27 million passengers per annum.

Birmingham is at the heart of the rail and motorway networks, and its airport is the most accessible in the UK. The Airport and NEC station will be the hub of the proposed HS2 network, potentially with half of the population less than one-hour away.

Longer-term, developing Birmingham as a major gateway at the centre of the UK would reduce unproductive surface travel time and leave Heathrow as a gateway for London and the South East.

With its proposed second runway, Birmingham's spare capacity could rise to over 50 million and create 50,000 jobs in an area with some of the UK’s highest pockets of persistent unemployment.

We call on Government to encourage and assist Airports to work with Local Enterprise Partnerships and stakeholders to declare longer-term options to benefit UK Plc. They should examine how the impact on local communities can be mitigated, and a balance be struck between employment, economic growth, and local nuisance.

Government infrastructure planning needs to both recognise airports and provide sufficient confidence for airports to be able to plan well into the future both their contribution and connectivity. But in so doing, recognise that UK aviation is not just a South East issue, but is a driver for regional economic growth – growth in areas that have languished behind the South East. Importantly, Government must support expansion of Birmingham’s airport to maximise the regional growth opportunity.

We must encourage growth now. The solution should lie at the heart of the UK in the Midlands.

Yours Sincerely,

Conservative West Midlands MPs

Mark Garnier

Michael Fabricant

Mark Pritchard

James Morris

Jesse Norman

Richard Shepherd

Aidan Burley

Andrew Griffiths

Chris Kelly

Harriett Baldwin

Paul Uppal

Robin Walker

Dan Byles

Marcus Jones

Daniel Kawczynski

Gavin Williamson

Margot James

Conservative West Midlands MEPs

Philip Bradbourne

Malcolm Harbour

Anthea McIntyre

Labour West Midlands MPs

Ian Austin

Gisela Stuart

Steven McCabe

Valerie Vaz

Dave Wright

Adrian Bailey

Tom Watson

Khalid Mahmood

Liam Byrne

Emma Reynolds

Labour Council Leaders

Cllr. David Jamieson (Solihull)

Cllr. Tim Oliver (Walsall)

Cllr. John Mutton (Coventry)

Cllr. Darren Cooper (Sandwell)

Conservative Council Leaders

Councillor Mike Whitby

(Leader of the Conservative Group and former Leader of Birmingham City Council)

Chambers of Commerce

Jerry Blackett

Chief Executive

Birmingham Chamber of Commerce Group

West Midlands businesses.

Neil Rami

Marketing Birmingham

Charlie Shiels

GeoPost UK LTD

Kate Beech

Noble-Lancaster Partnership

David Smith

Mezenet Solutions Ltd

David Sedgley

Roadlink International Ltd

Fay Goodman,

Goodmedia Limited

Dean Parnell

Sydney Mitchell LLP

Michael Ward

Gateley LLP

Steve Brittan

BSA Machine Tools Ltd

Parveen Mehta

Minor Weir Willis Ltd

Byron P Head

Rical Group

Graham Eden

Cognitor Ltd

Steve Allen

Mills & Reeve LLP

Simon Topman,

The Acme Whistle Co Ltd

Marc Stone

Stone Consulting Ltd

Adrian Burton

Erlsmede Consulting Ltd

Glenn Howells

Glenn Howells Architects Limited

Terry Gibbs

Harrow Green Ltd

Ian Greaves

KPMG LLP

Colin Leighfield

Wedge Group Galvanizing Ltd.

Paul Schnepper

Holiday Inn Birmingham Airport

Bill Almen

Al Fereej Trading UK Ltd

Stephen Jones

Clear Solutions Wealth & Tax Mangement Ltd

Professor Mary Carswell

Birmingham City University

Balwinder Dhanoa

Progress Care Solutions

K. Raindi

K&K Clothing

Clayton Shaw

Sampad

Ms Amina Bukhari

Acorn Primary School

Sangeeta Nazran

UK Property group

Levi Cheng

Guerbet Laboratories Ltd

Mrs Joy Farrall

Learning Impact International Ltd

Mark Tonks

Mark Tonks & Associates Ltd

Mark Petty,

NextiraOne UK

Rick Grain

Effigy Blinds Ltd

Ronnie Brown

Hotels.tv/Birmingham

David Caro

Federation of Small Businesses

Craig Errington

Wesleyan Assurance Society

Paul Thandi

The NEC Group

Richard Holt

Evans Derry Solicitors

Calum Nisbet,

City of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra

Source; http://www.coventryobserver.co.uk/2012/ ... 49119.html
Author:  wannabeeahack [ Wed Sep 05, 2012 10:16 am ]
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Quote:
Wesleyan Assurance Society

City of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra


but no taxi firms?


:badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:
Author:  Nidge2 [ Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:00 pm ]
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Boris the Buffoon doesn't want a 3rd runway at Heathrow so I suppose someone has got to have one.
Author:  roythebus [ Wed Sep 05, 2012 6:36 pm ]
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Here on romney Marsh we've been waiting over 8 years to extend the runway of Lydd (London Ashford International Airport) by 326m for over 8 years....as someone pointed out it only took 5 years to win WW2...so what chance of any of these new proposals being built in our lifetimes?

They want to extend the runaway at Lydd to take fully loaded 737s. It can already take 737 freight 24/7, but need the extra bit for passenger safety reasons!
Author:  Sussex [ Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:03 pm ]
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Sadly the business world doesn't want to fly into Birmingham, nor for that matter Gatwick or Stanstead.

Heathrow will get their third runway, and Boris can go do one.
Author:  edders23 [ Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:14 pm ]
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The Brum solution is simple close the A45 bulldoze a couple of housing estates full of labour voters whereas Heathrow will affect all those tory voting commuters from Staines on thames ( :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ) sorry I still can't call it that without laughing and Uxbridge as well as her Maj who lives not far away

We need to learn from the frogies when it comes to national interest don't give the nimbies a say Just get on and build it !

yours TIC edders
Author:  wannabeeahack [ Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:37 pm ]
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Theres plenty of ex-RAF bases all around England that could become an airport, LHR is already too congested, all any of them need is a fast rail link
Author:  Sussex [ Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:25 pm ]
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wannabeeahack wrote:
Theres plenty of ex-RAF bases all around England that could become an airport, LHR is already too congested, all any of them need is a fast rail link

The issue isn't just folks coming into the country, or leaving it, but people in transit.

That's why Heathrow will be the one, because all the major airlines want to use it as a hub.
Author:  Brummie Cabbie [ Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:02 am ]
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edders23 wrote:
The Brum solution is simple close the A45

That's already happening within 12-18 months with the current runway extension that is being built at the moment, with completion due in May 2014.

The new diverted A45 will loop around the runway extension and the present A45 will become a dead-end from both directions.
Author:  Chris the Fish [ Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:50 am ]
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roythebus wrote:
Here on romney Marsh we've been waiting over 8 years to extend the runway of Lydd (London Ashford International Airport) by 326m for over 8 years....as someone pointed out it only took 5 years to win WW2...so what chance of any of these new proposals being built in our lifetimes?

They want to extend the runaway at Lydd to take fully loaded 737s. It can already take 737 freight 24/7, but need the extra bit for passenger safety reasons!


The simple answer would be to re-open Lympne - would require removing the industial estate that now occupies it but it would be worthwhile just to hear the happy sound of people trying to pronounce it again. You have to love Norman French place names.

In Plymouth we have a Lympne Avenue - on the former RAF married patch. The locals now call it "Limp Knee Avenue". Coming originally from near there, I used to try to educate them in the proper way to say it - can't be bothered now.
Author:  grandad [ Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:37 am ]
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Chris the Fish wrote:
The simple answer would be to re-open Lympne - would require removing the industial estate that now occupies it but it would be worthwhile just to hear the happy sound of people trying to pronounce it again. You have to love Norman French place names.

In Plymouth we have a Lympne Avenue - on the former RAF married patch. The locals now call it "Limp Knee Avenue". Coming originally from near there, I used to try to educate them in the proper way to say it - can't be bothered now.

The country is full of these strangly pronounced places. Around here we have Belvoir which is pronounced Beaver.
Author:  roythebus [ Thu Sep 06, 2012 9:50 am ]
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Heathrow was originally Heath Row Aerodrome; I've got an old bus ticket to prove it! (removes bus anorak and hides...)
Author:  wannabeeahack [ Thu Sep 06, 2012 11:28 am ]
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Sussex wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
Theres plenty of ex-RAF bases all around England that could become an airport, LHR is already too congested, all any of them need is a fast rail link

The issue isn't just folks coming into the country, or leaving it, but people in transit.

That's why Heathrow will be the one, because all the major airlines want to use it as a hub.


if passing thru they can change planes anywhere
Author:  grandad [ Thu Sep 06, 2012 1:41 pm ]
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roythebus wrote:
Heathrow was originally Heath Row Aerodrome; I've got an old bus ticket to prove it! (removes bus anorak and hides...)

My dad tells me that he worked on the 1st runway at Heathrow. He tells me that one of the biggest problems they had was each night they had further to go to get back to the pub.
Author:  edders23 [ Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:46 pm ]
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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
edders23 wrote:
The Brum solution is simple close the A45

That's already happening within 12-18 months with the current runway extension that is being built at the moment, with completion due in May 2014.

The new diverted A45 will loop around the runway extension and the present A45 will become a dead-end from both directions.


could be interesting for the traffic heading into the airport miss the turn and finish up on the runway ! :lol:
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