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 Post subject: PHM sept page 54
PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:47 pm 
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at the bottom is an advert for Silverpay

saying

You pay 6% for our managed service
You charge the customer 10%
You earn 10%-6% = 4% extra

now use a £100 fare

£100 add 10% = £110
the 6% fee = £6.60
nett amount £103.40

which ISNT 4%

the devil is always in the detail

theres also a rental of £20/month (£24 inc vat) and a one-off installtion fee of £30 (£36 inc vat)

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 Post subject: Re: PHM sept page 54
PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:44 pm 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
at the bottom is an advert for Silverpay

saying

You pay 6% for our managed service
You charge the customer 10%
You earn 10%-6% = 4% extra

now use a £100 fare

£100 add 10% = £110
the 6% fee = £6.60
nett amount £103.40

which ISNT 4%

the devil is always in the detail

theres also a rental of £20/month (£24 inc vat) and a one-off installtion fee of £30 (£36 inc vat)

Are these your figures or are they supplied by silverpay? I think you have got it wrong. The 6% and the 4% will be on the £100 and not on the £110.

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 Post subject: Re: PHM sept page 54
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it SAYS "you charge the customer 10%"

ergo £100 becomes £110



its like the old question, if VAT is 20% and the vat inc total is £120 surely i only have to remove 20% to get the vat-free element"

£120 less 20% is £96

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 Post subject: Re: PHM sept page 54
PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 2:38 pm 
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Not for much longer the government is proposing to outlaw such extra charges as part of the package to reign in the airlines and other companies using card fee's as a way of boosting prices.

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 Post subject: Re: PHM sept page 54
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edders23 wrote:
Not for much longer the government is proposing to outlaw such extra charges as part of the package to reign in the airlines and other companies using card fee's as a way of boosting prices.


so then using a CC machine will simply lose 6% off the fare AND cost you the admin+installation costs

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 Post subject: Re: PHM sept page 54
PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:04 am 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
edders23 wrote:
Not for much longer the government is proposing to outlaw such extra charges as part of the package to reign in the airlines and other companies using card fee's as a way of boosting prices.


so then using a CC machine will simply lose 6% off the fare AND cost you the admin+installation costs

You will pay the admin fee out of the fare. I don't think there are any instalation costs.

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 Post subject: Re: PHM sept page 54
PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:31 am 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
it SAYS "you charge the customer 10%"

ergo £100 becomes £110



its like the old question, if VAT is 20% and the vat inc total is £120 surely i only have to remove 20% to get the vat-free element"

£120 less 20% is £96
Not so. 20% of £120 is £24. Try it on your calculator.

I'm not sure what the VAT deduction figure is for 20%, but on the 17.5% VAT rate to get the vat-free figure you had to deduct something like 14.768%!

Many years ago when I used to work in a toyshop, the mark-up was 50% on the cost price. this gave a profit of 33.3%. So the toy cost £100, sells for £150, profit is 33.3%, or one third of £150, £50. Simples.

Like when the credit card interest goes up from 10% (haha) to 15%. They tell you it's only gone up by 5%, but in fact it's gone up by 50%.


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 Post subject: Re: PHM sept page 54
PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 3:23 pm 
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Is there anything in the advert to say how long you have to wait to see the money in your account?

I bet they don't advertise that.


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 Post subject: Re: PHM sept page 54
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grandad wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
edders23 wrote:
Not for much longer the government is proposing to outlaw such extra charges as part of the package to reign in the airlines and other companies using card fee's as a way of boosting prices.


so then using a CC machine will simply lose 6% off the fare AND cost you the admin+installation costs

You will pay the admin fee out of the fare. I don't think there are any instalation costs.


from the PHM Silverpay advert

"Rental "from" £19.90+vat/pcm, one off installation fee £30+vat (where no extras)

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