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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 5:14 pm 
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Ministers plan dramatic cut in health and safety inspections by councils

The Government is to introduce a binding code on local authorities and the Health & Safety Executive that will exempt businesses such as shops, offices, pubs and clubs from regular health and safety inspections.

The Department for Business, Innovation & Skills said that in future, businesses would only face health and safety inspections if they were operating in higher risk areas such as construction and mining, if they had an incident or a track record of poor performance, or if there is a genuine complaint from an employee.

The code will be put out to consultation later this month. It is expected to come into force from April 2013.

Ministers will also introduce legislation in October that will mean businesses are only held liable for civil damages in health and safety cases if they can be shown to have acted negligently.

This new legislation will remove the part of the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974 that imposes civil liability for breaches of statutory duty in relation to health and safety regulations.

“This will end the current situation where businesses can automatically be liable for damages even if they were not actually negligent,” DBIS said.

The moves will coincide with plans to scrap or reform more than 3,000 regulations as part of the so-called Red Tape Challenge.

DBIS added that as a result of the Lofstedt report and the Red Tape Challenge, the Government had already announced plans to scrap or improve 85% of health and safety regulations.

It will also progress changes to tackle the perceived health and safety ‘compensation culture’ through its reforms to no-win, no-fee deals, and remove self-employed people from the health and safety regime where their work poses no harm to others.

Business Secretary Vince Cable said: "In these tough times, businesses need to focus all their energies on creating jobs and growth, not being tied up in unnecessary red tape. I've listened to those concerns and we're determined to put common sense back into areas like health and safety, which will reduce costs and fear of burdensome inspections."

The Government’s plans have been welcomed by business groups but heavily criticised by unions.

Alexander Ehmann, Head of Regulatory Policy at the Institute of Directors, said: “Removing the headache of health and safety inspections for low-risk businesses is a step change. Scrapping unnecessary and unpredictable inspections is a valuable piece of deregulation and the Government are to be congratulated for taking such bold and decisive action on behalf of Britain’s businesses.”

Katja Hall, Chief Policy Director at the Confederation of British Industry, said businesses would be encouraged by DBIS’ announcement.

“Given that half of firms say health and safety checks are a burden, and they are disproportionately costly for smaller firms, freeing low-risk businesses from tick-box inspections makes obvious sense,” she said. “Crucially, this will also focus inspectors’ time on the cases that really matter.”

But the TUC warned that the plans to abolish health and safety inspections for such a wide range of businesses could put the health of workers at risk.

General Secretary Brendan Barber said: “Contrary to myths peddled by ministers, the UK is facing an occupational health epidemic. Over 20,000 people die every year as a result of a disease they got through their work and a further 1.9m people are living with an illness caused by their work.

“Some of the 'low risk' workplaces identified by the government, such as shops, actually experience high levels of workplace injuries. This will only get worse if employers find it easier to ignore safety risks.”

Barber added: “This epidemic will only be stopped by ensuring that employers obey the law, and when every employer knows their workplace can be visited at any time.

“Health and safety regulation is not a burden on business, it is a basic protection for workers. Cutting back on regulation and inspections will lead to more injuries and deaths as result of poor safety at work.”

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Dont be under any illusions, this isnt put in place to help the public. :shock:

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 6:39 pm 
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I sense a de-regulatory approach from this Gov.

I wonder what will be next? :roll: :roll:

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I sense a de-regulatory approach from this Gov.

I wonder what will be next? :roll: :roll:



yeah it makes you wonder who would ever benefit from companies self regulating themselves - I mean - just look at how well those banks operated free from all that red tape and regulation. :roll:

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I wonder how many extra deaths a year this will cause :sad:

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I suspect some deaths at work are caused by employees being buried under mounds of unnecessary paperwork. Things like training courses on how to use step ladders.

Maybe they should also scrap the CPC training course for bus drivers as part of the deal.


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These cuts = murder for profit :evil: :evil: :evil:

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:11 pm 
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trotskys twin wrote:
These cuts = murder for profit :evil: :evil: :evil:



=D> =D> =D>

profit before people (ok that belongs to Noam)

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yeah, soon be back to the days of Mr Entwhistle at t'mill or Arkwright at t'pit or sending kids up the chimney....

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:08 am 
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captain cab wrote:
trotskys twin wrote:
These cuts = murder for profit :evil: :evil: :evil:



=D> =D> =D>

profit before people (ok that belongs to Noam)
If it was in Scotland, it would be murrrrrrrrrrrda for profit. 8)


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roythebus wrote:
captain cab wrote:
trotskys twin wrote:
These cuts = murder for profit :evil: :evil: :evil:



=D> =D> =D>

profit before people (ok that belongs to Noam)
If it was in Scotland, it would be murrrrrrrrrrrda for profit. 8)


Naw, just what we've come to expect from scumbag tories. 8)

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I wonder how many extra deaths a year this will cause :sad:


none...this is aimed at the needless low level safety checks that are forced on low risk jobs and businesses....Its not going to stop Health and Safety where it really matters.

It's about time we had less state interference and this seems like as good a place to begin as any..



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http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news ... nding.html

lots of words not a lot said.....but this one is fairly instructive;

Later this week, the Government will announce plans to make it easier for firms to remove under-performing workers in return for a pay-off. Using ‘settlement agreements’ will allow more staff to agree to go without the need to go to employment tribunals.


errm is that red tape and health and safety?

What you have here is spin.........they are using a popular pet hate, this one being health and safety, we'll read about schools banning conker fights and suchlike......because that suits a purpose, but the underlying theme will be putting the safety of workers to one side and making it easier to sack people.......but its health and safety.

Dont you just love those liberals? Theyre worse than tories ffs

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In the days when we operated from an office in town we were constantly being pestered by the local inspector who kept nit picking over things even though we were under the employee limit for the level of measures he insisted on imposing costing me £100's of pounds a year. This is the sort of thing this is aimed at the unnecessary imposition of penalties for using a 2 year old kettle instead of buying a brand new one etc.

Where there are genuine high risks I'm sure inspections will continue

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edders23 wrote:
In the days when we operated from an office in town we were constantly being pestered by the local inspector who kept nit picking over things even though we were under the employee limit for the level of measures he insisted on imposing costing me £100's of pounds a year. This is the sort of thing this is aimed at the unnecessary imposition of penalties for using a 2 year old kettle instead of buying a brand new one etc.

Where there are genuine high risks I'm sure inspections will continue


Really what makes you think they ever took place on a regular basis ???????????

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