It has one purpose only. It's another addition to the London centred thinking which dominates the UK nowadays.
...and it will extend what some of you call "the north" into another part of the London commuter belt.
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| Author: | Nidge2 [ Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | High Speed Railway 2 |
Looks like it's going right down at the bottom of my garden. Another waste of money, £33billion for a VIP Railway??? |
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| Author: | grandad [ Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: High Speed Railway 2 |
Nidge2 wrote: Looks like it's going right down at the bottom of my garden. Another waste of money, £300billion for a VIP Railway??? Unlucky! Let's get it built. |
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: High Speed Railway 2 |
grandad wrote: Nidge2 wrote: Looks like it's going right down at the bottom of my garden. Another waste of money, £300billion for a VIP Railway??? Unlucky! Let's get it built. Agreed, its the future for long distance high speed passenger transport in the UK and across to the Fatherland |
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| Author: | Nidge2 [ Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: High Speed Railway 2 |
grandad wrote: Nidge2 wrote: Looks like it's going right down at the bottom of my garden. Another waste of money, £300billion for a VIP Railway??? Unlucky! Let's get it built. Total waste of money. |
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| Author: | Nidge2 [ Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: High Speed Railway 2 |
wannabeeahack wrote: grandad wrote: Nidge2 wrote: Looks like it's going right down at the bottom of my garden. Another waste of money, £300billion for a VIP Railway??? Unlucky! Let's get it built. It's being labelled the 'rich person's railway'. |
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| Author: | grandad [ Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: High Speed Railway 2 |
Nidge2 wrote: grandad wrote: Nidge2 wrote: Looks like it's going right down at the bottom of my garden. Another waste of money, £300billion for a VIP Railway??? Unlucky! Let's get it built. Total waste of money. It won't bother you to much anyway. You will probably be dead by the time it's built. |
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| Author: | Nidge2 [ Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: High Speed Railway 2 |
grandad wrote: It won't bother you to much anyway. You will probably be dead by the time it's built. Probably won't but the building of it might. |
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| Author: | bloodnock [ Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: High Speed Railway 2 |
It will be a good method of getting the late arriving foreign migrants and asylum seekers to the midlands in only half the time. |
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| Author: | roythebus [ Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: High Speed Railway 2 |
And with through trains from the continent, it will save the problem of Kent having the expense of dealing with them. My only complaint about HS2 is why TF is it taking ao long to build? the French/Germans/Spanish build their high speed lines in a matter of 3 years, not 30 years. Sorry 2 complaints, what use is a station between Nottingham and Derby when it will take at least 30 mins to get from either city to the station?? |
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| Author: | grandad [ Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: High Speed Railway 2 |
roythebus wrote: And with through trains from the continent, it will save the problem of Kent having the expense of dealing with them. My only complaint about HS2 is why TF is it taking ao long to build? the French/Germans/Spanish build their high speed lines in a matter of 3 years, not 30 years. Sorry 2 complaints, what use is a station between Nottingham and Derby when it will take at least 30 mins to get from either city to the station?? East midlands airport is between Leicester, Nottingham and Derby and it seems to do OK. |
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| Author: | gusmac [ Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: High Speed Railway 2 |
It has one purpose only. It's another addition to the London centred thinking which dominates the UK nowadays. ...and it will extend what some of you call "the north" into another part of the London commuter belt.
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| Author: | Nidge2 [ Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: High Speed Railway 2 |
bloodnock wrote: It will be a good method of getting the late arriving foreign migrants and asylum seekers to the midlands in only half the time. Department for Transport: 'Over 100,000 jobs to be created by HS2 high speed rail project' Poland's prime minister welcomes the news. |
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| Author: | edders23 [ Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: High Speed Railway 2 |
what was so offensive about my post that it was removed ? 
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| Author: | roythebus [ Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: High Speed Railway 2 |
ISTR similar comments being made about HS1 when that was being built..rich man's railway...waste of money...nimby... Those same nimbys now use it to get from the green fields of Kent to London in 38 minutes instead of 70 minutes; fares are reasonable though slightly higher than by the old line; it is under capacity at the moment but when DB start their direct services from Cologne to London next year it will see more use; there's complaints that the HS1 didn't quite go far enough and ought to be extended to Ramsgate. The West Coast Main Line (WCML) is almost at full capacity; people moan about overcrowding and delays, so the answer they all shout for is more capacity. It isn't feasible to widen the existing WCML without demolishing half of Watford and Rugby, so the answer is a new high speed line, simples. That way it frees capacity on the WCML for slower trains. Similarly the East Coast line is almost at capacity with a train every 20 minutes from London to Leeds. In my days working on that line in the 1970's it was a train every 2 hours from London to Leeds, so that shows the extent of passenger growth. HS2 would also relieve that overcrowing on the ECML which has also been widened in places to allow more capacity. |
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| Author: | wannabeeahack [ Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: High Speed Railway 2 |
one day it might go all the way to the snowy wastelands we call Scotland, after the place has been civilised and folk speak English it will be handy for natives heading south to civilisation (i.e. anything this side of Hadrians wall) but they will need a passport soon... |
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