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 Post subject: How does this work ?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:00 pm 
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next door neighbour of one of my drivers has recently put his own car on the road plated for our district (he already has a full time job but wants to do taxi work as well :roll: ) he is working for a company based in a town 14 miles away in another licensing area which if he is working on a PH basis is OK as he is plated hackney BUT he is apparently covering local work in our town taken by this office in a neighbouring district. I thought at present that you had to operate a number based in the district your calls are coming from which is why we do not have national cab firms at the moment or am I completely wrong on this ?

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 Post subject: Re: How does this work ?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:43 pm 
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I thought at present that you had to operate a number based in the district your calls are coming from


nope, you need to be plated for the area/LA where the calls are ANSWERED but then a car can be sent anywhere

i.e. a Manchester city centre caller going to (say) Leeds rings a Leeds base and a Leeds plated car picks him up

assuming all are PH of course

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 Post subject: Re: How does this work ?
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wannabeeahack wrote:
edders23 wrote:
I thought at present that you had to operate a number based in the district your calls are coming from


nope, you need to be plated for the area/LA where the calls are ANSWERED but then a car can be sent anywhere

i.e. a Manchester city centre caller going to (say) Leeds rings a Leeds base and a Leeds plated car picks him up

assuming all are PH of course



Yes but this opertator is using vehicles plated in our area to do jobs in our area and cars plated for His district for local jobs there

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 Post subject: Re: How does this work ?
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I assume none of the vehicles or bases are hack/taxi bases?

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 Post subject: Re: How does this work ?
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Assuming only PH plates are involved...

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this operator is using vehicles plated in our area to do jobs in our area and cars plated for His district for local jobs there


so its the question of where the phones are answered then?

how has he got a PH ops licence for 2 areas unless he has 2 bases?

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 Post subject: Re: How does this work ?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:12 pm 
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edders23 wrote:
next door neighbour of one of my drivers has recently put his own car on the road plated for our district (he already has a full time job but wants to do taxi work as well :roll: ) he is working for a company based in a town 14 miles away in another licensing area which if he is working on a PH basis is OK as he is plated hackney BUT he is apparently covering local work in our town taken by this office in a neighbouring district. I thought at present that you had to operate a number based in the district your calls are coming from which is why we do not have national cab firms at the moment or am I completely wrong on this ?

He is operating legally.

The operating sections of the 1976 act only apply to PH, not hackneys.

In other words hackneys don't need to worry about all this cross border stuff.

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 Post subject: Re: How does this work ?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:15 pm 
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Both areas are NOT restricted therefore all vehicles are plated Hackney my question was how is he allowed to trade in another area without a seperate number for that area my understand was that that is not possible under current legislation or is it ?

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 Post subject: Re: How does this work ?
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edders23 wrote:
Both areas are NOT restricted therefore all vehicles are plated Hackney my question was how is he allowed to trade in another area without a seperate number for that area my understand was that that is not possible under current legislation or is it ?


a hack in any area can pass a job to a hack in any other area

yes, its legit


a hack can also work through a PH base in any area

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 Post subject: Re: How does this work ?
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its a whole grey area, let me explain, yes and no if the call is answered in one area it has to be a vehicle plated in that area, unless its a hackney carriage. Way around this - easy just state/ advertise that none of the vehicles used by company x belong to company x and all work is sub contracted out.

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its a whole grey area, let me explain, yes and no if the call is answered in one area it has to be a vehicle plated in that area, unless its a hackney carriage. Way around this - easy just state/ advertise that none of the vehicles used by company x belong to company x and all work is sub contracted out.


its not a grey area, a HC can take a job of anyone, any base, any hack any PH base anywhere

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 Post subject: Re: How does this work ?
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I got a call from someone wanting a taxi from perth racecourse yesterday so if we had a member on here driving a hackney in perth I could have taken the booking and got them to do it could I ?

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 Post subject: Re: How does this work ?
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I got a call from someone wanting a taxi from perth racecourse yesterday so if we had a member on here driving a hackney in perth I could have taken the booking and got them to do it could I ?


yes

for a cut

hackney yes, PH no.....in theory, BUT you could legally give the punter the other number PH

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wannabeeahack wrote:
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I got a call from someone wanting a taxi from perth racecourse yesterday so if we had a member on here driving a hackney in perth I could have taken the booking and got them to do it could I ?


yes

for a cut

hackney yes, PH no.....in theory, BUT you could legally give the punter the other number PH


How would i know the phone numbers of taxi firms 500 miles away ?

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 Post subject: Re: How does this work ?
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edders23 wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
edders23 wrote:
I got a call from someone wanting a taxi from perth racecourse yesterday so if we had a member on here driving a hackney in perth I could have taken the booking and got them to do it could I ?


yes

for a cut

hackney yes, PH no.....in theory, BUT you could legally give the punter the other number PH


How would i know the phone numbers of taxi firms 500 miles away ?

Don't you keep a record of other company's around the country in case of an emergency such as a break down on an airport run?

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