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A hack who works this area up in grim North, told us of this tale

His daughter, a barrister, got a hack cab in Cardiff, the driver asked for cash up front, 25 quid, his daughter said oh no its only 19 pounds and I am paying at the end of the journey, don't know how big the area is or could have that been outa town, not sure as yet, anyway the driver got going down the road, pulled over and asked for the cash 25 quid or we don't go any further, the driver got the cash and off he went and took her

His daughter, the barrister, asked for his name, address and badge number, he didn't give it as he believed its up the the passenger to get the cab number, thats all you need

She reported him for overcharging, abusive language, and not supplying licence details [no witnesses mind you], he was hauled in front of the taxi committee,[kangeroo court] found guilty, it is led to believe the driver got given four points on his licence. Do they operate a different system down there?? now would that be points to his hack licence, is there such a thing, can they do that, do they do that

A number of council operate a points system, but it has no bearing on the points we get for speeding etc.

Maybe in Cardiff it's a case of 10 points and you are out.

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He is entitled to ask for the fare up front but he wasn't entitled to refuse the other requests. You never mentioned him being abusive but the lady obviously complained about it, rightly or wrongly?

Diplomacy springs to mind.

Regards

JD

The way the system works in Cardiff is if a customer wishes to go outside the city a driver can ask any price he thinks is fair, (the problem is there is a small amount of drivers who do try to rip the customers off, (i think this can be said of any town or city)).
He is also allowed to ask for payment in advance of the journey commencing, this is to prevent any loss due to some customers not paying at the end of the journey, (i.e. runners etc)

If the journey is within the city limits then the journey is done on the meter, and the customer pays at the end of the journey, not before the journey begins. (there are some areas though that at night a deposit is aked for)

As to identification the driver must give his name, badge number and plate number if asked by the customer.

If a driver abuses his / her position to the point of insulting a customer, (i assume without provocation) then they should not be driving a taxi.

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Okey dokey Sussex

anyway logging off for 4 days, going on me army reunion down in Devon

So presumably since the journey was out of town he couldn't have been overcharging, thus the 'points' were for being abusive and/or failing to provide license details.

If he's got points then it will be on his taxi driver's license, not his ordinary driver's license.

Presumably Cardiff has it's own points system for Hack drivers.

Interesting.

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He should have thrown the cow out right at the start Barrister or not, end of problem.


Unless of course you think Barristers don't tell lies and council committees have extra sensory perception when it come to detecting if someone is lying or not.

Don't you think it's amazing when someone makes a complaint, the council without any physical evidence or independent witnesses asks the Cabby to commit an act of self-incrimination by answering the complaint. Then, deny him the right not to answer the allegation and find him guilty irrespective of having any proof.

I hope he gave her a bloody mouthful because if he didn't it would not have made any difference to the Councils decision anyway.

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Where a driver can charge what he wants outside his area is surely an AGREED fare. The facts of this case seem to be that the driver asked for £25, but AGREED to accept £19. Otherwise, why did he pull over and demand £25? He deserved the punishment he got.

"He deserved the punishment he got" Based on what exactly? The point being, we don't know what is true and there is know way to prove it. Her word against his.

Or should we take her word because she is a barrister, and would you like not to be given a reasonable doubt under these circumstance.

Jimbo, why do you feel the need to be judge jury and executioner?

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The point is we do not know the facts, we only have a third hand account from Stinky Pete.

Is it wrong to make a judgement without knowing the facts? Perhaps not for you but it certainly is for others?

JD

if he didnt give his number etc how did they find him?

seems strange to me that you would agree a fare then stop and change that price?

what probably happened is she wanted to go for £19 he said £25 she had no choice and took the cab reluctantly
she probably moaned all the way down the road at the end of the fair she decided she would get his number and teach him a lesson, having been charged a price that was slightly higher than her usual,the driver rightly so got [edited by admin] off (after all having a complaint flung at you after youve agreed a price and done the job is hardly justification to complain)and gave her a few choice words of his own,and told her thiers the plate number all details can be retrieved from that.
im sure weve all met the type before the ones that think you work for the council,she probably didnt realise that the price has to be agreed and that can be whatever the driver wants if she agrees its a done deal.
been thier done that.

strange but most barristers dont give you a final price at the start of any proceedings only an estimate.
good lawer £150 an hour

barister total price at beginning £4000 jumps to £8000 then to £13000
perhaps i oughta complain
and these people work justice system
says a lot about our society

Sounds to me she should be grateful she didn't get into "Skulls" Taxi.

The primae facea case seems to be that the driver accepted the job at £19 and then changed his mind, and you cannot do this. why do I draw this conclusion? Because the passenger got in the cab.
He asked for £25. She refused to pay more than £19. So refuse the job, let someone else take it if it's not worth your while. To stop in the midle of nowhere and demand £25 or get out is a terrible thing to do to a lone woman. I am not judge,jury, and executioner. That was the job of the licensing committee in Cardiff, and it would appear they did a good job. He could always appeal to the magistrates if he feels hard done by.

maybe she got in after agreeing to pay £25 then decided to report him and make up stories.
point is we dont know as for judge jury and excecutioner i doubt if the council had any facts to back this story up iether way, but still the taxi driver cant afford to go to court so he's an easy target and it helps the council by making them look really responsible looking after that poor girl.
if this story was true why didnt he just get asked to pay back the £6 surely that was all that was required.its all you would get from a high street retailer after all ,if that! why was he punished like this?

Don't know about that Jimbo - the way I read Pete's post was that they hardly got going before he stopped and demanded the £25 up front. Read this para again, particularly the last few words:

His daughter, a barrister, got a hack cab in Cardiff, the driver asked for cash up front, 25 quid, his daughter said oh no its only 19 pounds and I am paying at the end of the journey, don't know how big the area is or could have that been outa town, not sure as yet, anyway the driver got going down the road, pulled over and asked for the cash 25 quid or we don't go any further, the driver got the cash and off he went and took her

Sound like on of these scenarios where you set off and then there's a bit of a disagreement about the fare.

Of course, we don't know exactly what happened, but as I read it they were hardly in the middle of 'nowhere' when he asked her for the dosh.

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Why not just clock the job ask for the metered fare and be happy