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Author:  skippy41 [ Mon Aug 10, 2015 11:52 am ]
Post subject:  School contracts, self employeed or employed

If any taxi or PH company does school contracts, is the driver an employee???
seem to remember reading that drivers must be employeed

Author:  MR T [ Mon Aug 10, 2015 2:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: School contracts, self employeed or employed

skippy41 wrote:
If any taxi or PH company does school contracts, is the driver an employee???
seem to remember reading that drivers must be employeed



Not Liverpool or Sefton.

Author:  grandad [ Mon Aug 10, 2015 5:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: School contracts, self employeed or employed

skippy41 wrote:
If any taxi or PH company does school contracts, is the driver an employee???
seem to remember reading that drivers must be employeed

Employed by whom?

Author:  ven2112 [ Mon Aug 10, 2015 6:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: School contracts, self employeed or employed

ph driver here & do em , as far as i am aware im self employed

Author:  Sussex [ Mon Aug 10, 2015 7:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: School contracts, self employeed or employed

skippy41 wrote:
If any taxi or PH company does school contracts, is the driver an employee???
seem to remember reading that drivers must be employeed

No. Can be what he/she likes.

Author:  skippy41 [ Tue Aug 11, 2015 10:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: School contracts, self employeed or employed

I am sure I read it somewhere, possibly something to do with the national framework, or council rules but cannot find it on the council site.
It was along the lines of if a driver does school contracts, that driver must be employed, along with any escorts

Author:  grandad [ Tue Aug 11, 2015 3:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: School contracts, self employeed or employed

skippy41 wrote:
I am sure I read it somewhere, possibly something to do with the national framework, or council rules but cannot find it on the council site.
It was along the lines of if a driver does school contracts, that driver must be employed, along with any escorts

Again I ask you. Employed by whom?

Author:  trotskys twin [ Tue Aug 11, 2015 4:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: School contracts, self employeed or employed

grandad wrote:
skippy41 wrote:
I am sure I read it somewhere, possibly something to do with the national framework, or council rules but cannot find it on the council site.
It was along the lines of if a driver does school contracts, that driver must be employed, along with any escorts

Again I ask you. Employed by whom?


The contractor surely #-o

And of course seeing school runs are scheduled ALL drivers doing them are able to claim Worker Under the Direction of Company status ie employment rights, PAID holidays , sick pay, so get in there :D

Author:  bloodnock [ Tue Aug 11, 2015 4:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: School contracts, self employeed or employed

Nothing to say you have to be an employee...I own my business as do many other School run providers so I have no option but to be self Employed.

Loads of folk these days work for a company but still prefer to be classed as self employed even though it may be their only "Job" as such..Motor Mechanics, Painters etc...it just suits them and the folk that pay them to do it that way.

Author:  grandad [ Tue Aug 11, 2015 6:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: School contracts, self employeed or employed

trotskys twin wrote:
grandad wrote:
skippy41 wrote:
I am sure I read it somewhere, possibly something to do with the national framework, or council rules but cannot find it on the council site.
It was along the lines of if a driver does school contracts, that driver must be employed, along with any escorts

Again I ask you. Employed by whom?


The contractor surely #-o

And of course seeing school runs are scheduled ALL drivers doing them are able to claim Worker Under the Direction of Company status ie employment rights, PAID holidays , sick pay, so get in there :D

How does that work if you are the contractor? A self employed one man band. Does that mean that you should be forced to make yourself a limited company so you can employ yourself?

Author:  wannabeeahack [ Tue Aug 11, 2015 6:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: School contracts, self employeed or employed

skippy41 wrote:
I am sure I read it somewhere, possibly something to do with the national framework, or council rules but cannot find it on the council site.
It was along the lines of if a driver does school contracts, that driver must be employed, along with any escorts



Nope....stop eating mushrooms FFS

Author:  skippy41 [ Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: School contracts, self employeed or employed

grandad wrote:
skippy41 wrote:
I am sure I read it somewhere, possibly something to do with the national framework, or council rules but cannot find it on the council site.
It was along the lines of if a driver does school contracts, that driver must be employed, along with any escorts

Again I ask you. Employed by whom?


The company the driver works for, due to them being told when to start, after all a contract has a start time, so if a driver is told they must pick up little Johnny at 8 AM, the driver has to do it, they could refuse, but what if no other driver available, after all it was the company who put in for the contract

Author:  grandad [ Wed Aug 12, 2015 3:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: School contracts, self employeed or employed

skippy41 wrote:
grandad wrote:
skippy41 wrote:
I am sure I read it somewhere, possibly something to do with the national framework, or council rules but cannot find it on the council site.
It was along the lines of if a driver does school contracts, that driver must be employed, along with any escorts

Again I ask you. Employed by whom?


The company the driver works for, due to them being told when to start, after all a contract has a start time, so if a driver is told they must pick up little Johnny at 8 AM, the driver has to do it, they could refuse, but what if no other driver available, after all it was the company who put in for the contract

So if you are a one man band with a school contract, who is the employer?

Author:  trotskys twin [ Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: School contracts, self employeed or employed

bloodnock wrote:
Nothing to say you have to be an employee...I own my business as do many other School run providers so I have no option but to be self Employed.

Loads of folk these days work for a company but still prefer to be classed as self employed even though it may be their only "Job" as such..Motor Mechanics, Painters etc...it just suits them and the folk that pay them to do it that way.


NO YOU ARE A CONTRACTOR :D

Author:  trotskys twin [ Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: School contracts, self employeed or employed

The company the driver works for, due to them being told when to start, after all a contract has a start time, so if a driver is told they must pick up little Johnny at 8 AM, the driver has to do it, they could refuse, but what if no other driver available, after all it was the company who put in for the contract[/quote]
So if you are a one man band with a school contract, who is the employer?[/quote]


If Grandad Tory Vermin gives a school run to another driver on a regular basis that DRIVER can whack him as a Worker under the direction of the company and should any of this Tory's workers need advice on how to obtain their rights feel free tp PM ME in total confidence :D :D I would be delighted to assist :D

A one man band is obviously self employed but of course CouncilS require guaranteed coverage of theis School runs and given the ONE MAN BAND cant cover it it gets interesting .......................naturallY Councils will in the future be looking very closely at the Working Hours Practices of these one man bands the majority of whom have deplorable practices, excessive hours poor non existent maintenance......................criminal history's including sexual convictions :D iE fekking scum :evil:

ALL SCHOOL CONTRACT SHOULD OF COURSE BE COVERED IN HOUSE BY THE COUNCILS PAYE STAFF......FEKKING OBVIOUS #-o

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