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A person was stopped on one of our taxi ranks this afternoon. A civil enforcement officer took a photo of the car and the driver complained and said he was only passing some paperwork to someone. At this point a member of the public got involved and was "having a go" at the enforcement officer. When the enforcement officer had finished writing the ticket she handed the ticket to the passer by and not the driver or on the vehicle. Is that ticket valid?

what was the ticket for?

wannabeeahack wrote:

what was the ticket for?

being ugly..

what was the ticket for?

wannabeeahack wrote:

what was the ticket for?

Parking on a taxi rank I would guess.

All that said, there must be a thousand posts on TDO moaning about cab drivers using ranks as free parking, so we can't have it always.

Sussex wrote:

All that said, there must be a thousand posts on TDO moaning about cab drivers using ranks as free parking, so we can't have it always.

we all do, one is right by a public loo, but coaches and public park on it too

Apparently the vehicle was not on the taxi rank. The PCN was not placed on the vehicle or given to the driver but was given to another person who was not even a passenger in the vehicle. The observation time recorded on the PCN states that the vehicle was observed from 14.30 until 14.30.

grandad wrote:

IF the vehicle was stopped on the rank then the observation time is irrelevant, I think the words 'No Stopping Except Taxis' accompanied by a blue circle with a red cross gives the game away !

Author:	grandad [ Mon Sep 21, 2015 3:50 pm ]
Post subject:	Is this ticket valid?
A person was stopped on one of our taxi ranks this afternoon. A civil enforcement officer took a photo of the car and the driver complained and said he was only passing some paperwork to someone. At this point a member of the public got involved and was "having a go" at the enforcement officer. When the enforcement officer had finished writing the ticket she handed the ticket to the passer by and not the driver or on the vehicle. Is that ticket valid?

Author:	bloodnock [ Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:02 pm ]
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grandad wrote: A person was stopped on one of our taxi ranks this afternoon. A civil enforcement officer took a photo of the car and the driver complained and said he was only passing some paperwork to someone. At this point a member of the public got involved and was "having a go" at the enforcement officer. When the enforcement officer had finished writing the ticket she handed the ticket to the passer by and not the driver or on the vehicle. Is that ticket valid? I'd say no as it was not served on the driver.

Author:	wannabeeahack [ Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:21 pm ]
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what was the ticket for?

Author:	MR T [ Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:22 pm ]
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wannabeeahack wrote: what was the ticket for? being ugly..

Author:	wannabeeahack [ Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:48 pm ]
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MR T wrote: wannabeeahack wrote: what was the ticket for? being ugly.. no defence then

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Author:	grandad [ Mon Sep 21, 2015 5:30 pm ]
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wannabeeahack wrote: what was the ticket for? Parking on a taxi rank I would guess.

Author:	wannabeeahack [ Mon Sep 21, 2015 6:46 pm ]
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grandad wrote: wannabeeahack wrote: what was the ticket for? Parking on a taxi rank I would guess. and was it? we had coaches parked on a rank saturday AGAIN

Author:	Sussex [ Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:35 pm ]
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grandad wrote: A person was stopped on one of our taxi ranks this afternoon. A civil enforcement officer took a photo of the car and the driver complained and said he was only passing some paperwork to someone. At this point a member of the public got involved and was "having a go" at the enforcement officer. When the enforcement officer had finished writing the ticket she handed the ticket to the passer by and not the driver or on the vehicle. Is that ticket valid? The ticket wont be valid as the driver has no way to appeal, or to even know what he is being ticketed for. At some time in the future the council will send an enforcement notice, and that may be valid, as there is photo evidence of the alleged breach. If someone gets ticketed and a chav takes the ticket off the vehicle before the driver arrives back, then IMO the charge still stands, it's just the defendant should be given extra time to challenge. In the case at hand the fact that the warden gave the ticket to a passerby does question her ability to take down details correctly. All that said, there must be a thousand posts on TDO moaning about cab drivers using ranks as free parking, so we can't have it always.

Author:	wannabeeahack [ Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:40 pm ]
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Sussex wrote: All that said, there must be a thousand posts on TDO moaning about cab drivers using ranks as free parking, so we can't have it always. we all do, one is right by a public loo, but coaches and public park on it too

Author:	Sussex [ Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:44 pm ]
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wannabeeahack wrote: Sussex wrote: All that said, there must be a thousand posts on TDO moaning about cab drivers using ranks as free parking, so we can't have it always. we all do, one is right by a public loo, but coaches and public park on it too I'm not sure too many moan about a driver ranking up and then using the loo, but when they do there week's shopping, that's not on IMO.

Author:	Nidge2 [ Tue Sep 22, 2015 6:55 am ]
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If it wasn't attached to the vehicle then it's not valid.

Author:	roythebus [ Tue Sep 22, 2015 1:09 pm ]
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PCNs can be issued by post if the driver moves away before it is attached to the car. It may be valid, but that depends what was on it.

Author:	grandad [ Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:49 pm ]
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Apparently the vehicle was not on the taxi rank. The PCN was not placed on the vehicle or given to the driver but was given to another person who was not even a passenger in the vehicle. The observation time recorded on the PCN states that the vehicle was observed from 14.30 until 14.30.

Author:	x-ray [ Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:08 pm ]
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grandad wrote: Apparently the vehicle was not on the taxi rank. The PCN was not placed on the vehicle or given to the driver but was given to another person who was not even a passenger in the vehicle. The observation time recorded on the PCN states that the vehicle was observed from 14.30 until 14.30. IF the vehicle was stopped on the rank then the observation time is irrelevant, I think the words 'No Stopping Except Taxis' accompanied by a blue circle with a red cross gives the game away !

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Author:	grandad [ Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:29 pm ]
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x-ray wrote: grandad wrote: Apparently the vehicle was not on the taxi rank. The PCN was not placed on the vehicle or given to the driver but was given to another person who was not even a passenger in the vehicle. The observation time recorded on the PCN states that the vehicle was observed from 14.30 until 14.30. IF the vehicle was stopped on the rank then the observation time is irrelevant, I think the words 'No Stopping Except Taxis' accompanied by a blue circle with a red cross gives the game away ! If you read the above I state that the vehicle was not, repeat, not on a taxi rank. it was in a car park at a place where coaches visiting the town drop off and pick up passengers.