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Author:  Comical Ali [ Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Union Woes
Make of this as you will


On 27 Nov 2015 14:31

Hi J**** hope I find you well and surviving the traffic nightmare called London.
Your role which was voted on during the last branch meeting will have to be balloted via all Uber Driver Branch Members via postal vote.
This is procedure and one assumes will not effect the position nor your training date as it's reasonably safe to say that with the hard work you have put in its unlikely Uber Branch Members will not be in favour or nominate a different member.
Any queries pleas don't hesitate to call myself or Michelle Bacon
Regards

***** ****

On 27 Nov 2015 16:14

***** I don't accept the need for any further ballot here for myself or Y*****. The G** rule book is very clear about this under Rule 43-2. We are already elected. To send out ballots now to all the membership without informing myself or Y***** in advance is an outrageous abuse of process. I certainly do not recognise this second election as legitimate and absolutely will not recognise the rest results one way or another. You do not have my permission to put my name before the members for this vote. I am demanding that you immediately withdraw this ballit. I will also take legal advice on this . I am also demanding that a statement of explanation from me now be immediately be sent to the membership base. Who do I send this statement to and how do I get it be sent today?

M******* as the paid staffer with duty to oversee the branch I need an explanation also from you as to why you allowed this blatant subversion of rules and process. First I've had a nuisance Rule 5 complaint then disgusting trolling on twitter and now my election to shop steward overturned. Why have you allowed this to happen? Answers are now urgently needed and demanded. M******* - given the position I've now been placed in by these illegitimate and illegal actions by the executive section of the branch I will personally need professional legal support and I am demanding that G** now provide and pay for this. Within our branch we now have a clear pattern of abuse and harassment of trade union activists doing legitimate work and we now demand protection from further harassment by G** staff and volunteer branch officers acting irregularly.

These irregularities will need to be debated at length at the next branch meeting and must be tabled for discussion. In the meantime I would recommend Simon and Steve now consider their positions and fitness to continue in office.

Best Regards

***** ******

Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 17:43
Subject Re: Shop Steward Role

Hello Everyone
Just to be completely transparent about my actions. If you do not withdraw me from ballot with a communication and explanation to members by 5pm Monday, I will be writing to **** ***** asking him to act where you do not. His name is on the ballot paper as G** official responsible. If you do not act I will demand he does so. Given the short turnround time for the ballot it is extremely important you act promptly to suspend it. You have and have had no permission from me to enter into this ballot nor did not even give me the courtesy of advance notice. IT MUST BE SUSPENDED IMMEDIATELY. YOU MUST ACT NOW.
Best Regards
J****

Date: 27/11/2015 19:22
Subject: Re: Shop Steward Role

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Good evening ***** and all I have just pulled into services and have seen this exchange. Could I ask that everyone refrains from sending further emails until I have looked at this in detail. I will then write to you all with an explanation as I see it. However this will not be for the next three hours or so so bear with me please.
Many thanks
**** ****
Many tha
Sent from IBM Notes Traveler


On 30 Nov 2015 13:10, <****.****@***.org.uk> wrote:

Good morning ***** and All

As promised, in another email thread, I said I would revert back today. In doing so I would not want to see this matter become the subject of a huge a email debate as it is very simple and straightforward. Also there is no need for any emotive language, of the sort I have seen in the past.

I have now spoken with ******** and we have agreed that the ballot paper sent out was not applicable on this occasion, albeit that it was sent entirely in good faith. *****, the second communication was a standard letter only.

From the information obtained, I am advised that when the branch last met a vote was taken by Uber members to elect ***** as a shop steward. The same applied to a member from Addison Lee. Nothing wrong with this as the election at the branch meeting would comply with GMB Rule 43.2.b, as ***** points out. However my understanding is that the matter of the election was not the subject of advance notification to all Uber members thus denying any other Uber member the right to stand. If there had been advance notification then there would not be an issue. I know you will all agree that we must uphold the principles of democracy and transparency. Therefore it is only right that we hold an election but in the meantime if ***** was to continue in the role pro-tem then I cannot foresee this to be a problem. Of course, and with hindsight, this should have been explained at the branch meeting.

To follow this through I have asked ******** to send out a note to all Uber members asking they ignore and destroy the previous ballot paper. Following this ******** will follow the standard practice by way of sending a nomination form to all members. If we receive only one nomination then that person, providing they accept the nomination, will be elected unopposed. Obviously if more that one person is nominated, and where more than one person accepts a nomination, then an election will need to be held. I would suggest a minimum of two weeks for the nomination part of the process.

The branch will need to decide how it wishes the election to be conducted, be this by election at the next branch or by a postal ballot of the Uber membership. Can I suggest you let your committee decide.

I hope this helps, allows all to move forward and to bring this matter to a close.

Best wishes

**** **** - Head of Legal Services and Senior Organiser

Subject: Re: Shop Steward Role
From: ***** ******
To: "**** ****"
CC: several others



Thanks ****. I understand what you're saying and of course that might have been ideally a better way to go about things. Unfortunately, this ideal practice is not spelled out in Rule 43. Am I missing something, it is clarified in another rule we can read?

If we were to do this again that would be a great practice to follow. The problem now is how to fix the situation. Are you saying an election properly carried out according to Rule 43 is now to be set aside? That isn't good for democracy either. Without using emotive language there has been a clear pattern of abuse here and a second ballot was hardly called in the interests of shoring up democracy. I'd say grass roots democracy is best served by letting the results of a grass roots precipitated election stand.

Now of course we must turn to the knock on effects. The branch has made appointments by a show of hands just as with my role and ******'s. Are these elections now too be set aside also?

While I applaud the drive for grass roots democracy and accountability - something absent for too long at the branch which gave rise for the need to elect these roles as a grass roots initiative - are we now to abandon Rule 43 and all other rules in the rule book? Are we to enforce this unspecified best practice for some elections but not others?

Look forward to hearing from you

*****

Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 15:48:43 +0000
Subject: Re: Shop Steward Role
From: ***** *******
To: ***** ******
CC: many others

More b.s. from ***** over timeshare stop making frankly stupid claims.



***** *******




-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Shop Steward Role
From: ***** ******
To: ***** *******
CC: many others



And by the way, while *** continues to resist the effective organisation of private hire drivers already facing an horrendous drop in earnings , Uber today has launched POOL. This sees our earnings diluted further and commissions increased to as much as/35% .

Instead of being enabled, empowered and supported to deal with this instead more obstacles to the most basic level of grass roots representation are thrown in our path just as there was in the run up to our inaugural demo.

It's simply not good enough.

On 30 Nov 2015 15:24, "***** ******" wrote:

*****

I'm not getting into this with you. The matter is too important to too many people to allow you to allow you to make this about you. The branch interests must be bigger than you and it must doggedly follow the welfare needs of its members not those of the branch secretariat .

I think the inherent racism of the LHR matter is very clear for all to see. I can't explain it further to you.

But while we are in the business of offering explanations - we're all still waiting for an explanation of why *** planted that story with the BBC, why Addison Lee management were briefed on our legal challenge and if AL paid for the legal advice, why you've chosen to set aside a perfectly proper election result not palatable to you and carried out in front of not one but two *** regional and national officers without complaint. There is a question as to why you were allowed to abuse Rule 5 in order to silence questions on these important matters. Your integrity has been grist for much public debate all over the internet long before i showed up and sadly is now a major impediment to recruitment. These are important questions in their own right. I don't know you personally and have no interest in a 'vendetta' against you. To continue to insist that there is one against you is just a pathetic attempt to side step these important questions and subvert branch governance.


On 30 Nov 2015 15:05, "***** ********" wrote:

Following what is another attack I have decided to respond to ***** derisive rhetoric I have allowed his constant attacks for too long.

Continued attempts attack me and the work I do will be responded to.

I intend to copy all ***** emails to members as clearly he is only keen on damage not campaigning as claimed but more of that in my more formal response.

Do in the meantime explain the comments in relation to racism from your previous email.

Your petty attempts to make other claims ABOUT me had no grounds but still you continue your vendetta.

In my opinion you make lots if claims but few stack up.

Be assured my comments will be not as ambiguous as yours.



***** ********
Author:  captain cab [ Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Union Woes
Oh dear - it all appears to be getting quite nasty in the GMB
Author:  trotskys twin [ Fri Dec 04, 2015 12:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Union Woes
captain cab wrote:
Oh dear - it all appears to be getting quite nasty in the GMB


Very nasty i would say Racism/ Election rigging/ Officers PROPRIETORS operating in their own interests, bullying/ harassment/ members believing they have been mislead on the GMBPDB's stance with UBER !

Addy Lee paying the GMB's legal costs against Uber?WTF is that all about Addy Lee are vigorously Anti Union and many of their Drivers are leaving for UBER what a fekking cess pit the GMBPDB is becoming under the current CORRUPT regime #-o #-o

Looks like wholesale corruption to me.

Still a previous General Secretary described the GMB as institutionally Corrupt at an employment tribunal looks like he was bang on the money :badgrin: :badgrin:

and of course the recent ballot for general Secretary is now being investigated by the Certification Officer evidently the GMB have until the 15 December to respond to that one MY MONEYS ON THAT ELECTION BEING RE -RUN and for sure the so called winner in the latest farce will be barred from standing :badgrin: :badgrin:
Author:  trotskys twin [ Fri Dec 04, 2015 12:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Union Woes
Lets make it absolutely clear i get no pleasure from observing these despicable occurrences within the GMBPDB i have spent over 55 years promoting the Trade Union ethic and am extremely annoyed AND DISSAPOINTED that a Branch i created is being prostituted by an exploitative proprietor!!

With the assistance it appears of certain full time un elected officers DISGUSTING IN MY OPINION !!

Workers in all industry's deserve efficient honest militant Unions the GMBPDB is becoming an obscenity and surely an embarrassment even TO the GMB #-o :?: :?:

Get it sorted GMB remove the current PROPRIETOR BRANCH SEC AND HES COHORTS and provide the honest back up training education and support the workers in this industry cry out for NOW =D> =D> =D>

QUESTION DID THE GMB ACCEPT MONEY FROM ADDISSON LEE TO FINANCE ITS LEGAL BATTLE WITH UBER :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:
Author:  wannabeeahack [ Fri Dec 04, 2015 12:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Union Woes
Unions bent as a 9 bob note
Author:  captain cab [ Fri Dec 04, 2015 12:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Union Woes
trotskys twin wrote:

QUESTION DID THE GMB ACCEPT MONEY FROM ADDISSON LEE TO FINANCE ITS LEGAL BATTLE WITH UBER :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:


did the cab trade do similar?
Author:  Sussex [ Fri Dec 04, 2015 2:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Union Woes
All the uber lads want to do is join a union and be protected.

Is that asking too much?

Yet the gmb hierarchy seem to want to put barriers in their way.

It would appear the gmb hierarchy are now a spiv supporting Union.

I wasn't there, but I'm pretty certain there were no spivs in the Tollpuddle martyrs.
Author:  trotskys twin [ Mon Dec 07, 2015 12:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Union Woes
Sussex wrote:
All the uber lads want to do is join a union and be protected.

Is that asking too much?

Yet the gmb hierarchy seem want to put barriers in their way.

It would appear the gmb hierarchy are now a spiv supporting Union.

I wasn't there, but I'm pretty certain there were no spivs in the Tollpuddle martyrs.


Nothing new there Sussex plus of course incompetence by various officers #-o #-o

The so called election should never have taken place what should have happend was that a show of hands ballot should have enabled the Uber Drivers to put in place an ACTING shop Steward until formal elections involving the ENTIRE Uber membership could be initiated like- wise for Addy Lee MEMBERS !!

Given one of the so called officers is ex Old Bill yeh really :badgrin: :badgrin: its hardly surprising that this farce was allowed #-o #-o #-o absolute incompetence !

NOTING the GMBPDB have not denied taking money from Addy Lee for legal challenges against Uber WITHOUT the formal authorisation of the Uber members i perceive some expulsions on the horizon ........................namely the Branch sec and President and most certainly the regional legal officer were he aware of this despicable action!


So where does that leave the Uber and Addy Lee members?

i would hope that they would maintain their membership and continue to recruit theres definitely strength in numbers theres a Branch meeting i believe tomorrow at 1845 at National Headquaters Euston where i am lead to believe a motion calling for the Branch sec and Presidents resignation will be debated, be there and support it =D>

Its clearly in the Branch's interest to rid itself ASAP of the Branch sec who has for so long p******* the Branch for his own ends likewise the VAPOR puffing Branch President !

Lets be clear policy's tactics within Union Branch's are always decided structured by the Branch membership not by branch LAY officers, for sure they TAKE PART IN THE DEBATE and vote but are mandated by the membership on all issues #-o #-o and of course that will sometimes mean a Branch sec promoting arguing for a policy he personally disagrees with but of course that is the role :D

I wish the Uber and Addy Lee members indeed all GMBPDB members the very best and should any of you wish to receive my advice on these issues feel free to contact me i can be PM'd on here in confidence and will of course supply my phone number to you and would be willing to meet should you wish ................but be aware discussing GMBPDB matters with non members is punishable by expulsion, many do of course in total secrecy :D :D no reason why you shouldn't if you wish but be careful of who knows your doing it.

This Branch was initiated and created in the best interests of the membership for many years it was highly successful democratic and militant many members considerably benefited from being active members, i hope it returns i to those days and establishes's a formidable democratic weapon with which the Proprietors can be whipped into line achieving for its members A FAIR DAYS PAY FOR A FAIR DAYS WORK =D> =D> =D>

ORGANISE EDUCATE AGITATATE =D> =D> =D> =D>
Author:  trotskys twin [ Tue Dec 08, 2015 4:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Union Woes
Evidently tonight's meeting promises to be rather interesting :wink: :wink:



Advice remove the proprietors infestation and his sidekick ie the Branch sec and the Branch President =D> =D>


then schedule a time table for fully democratic elections for a convener and Committee at both Uber and Addison Lee.

Give adequate time for all members to consider whether they would like to stand for office and then adequate time for all members to partake in the ballot normally 3 weeks for each.

If the present Branch sec and Pres are not removed from office this evening ELECT TELLERS TO OVERSEE THE BALLOTS INSIST THE BALLOT IS COUNTED IN THE PRESENCE OF ALL CANDIDATES :D

WISH YOU LUCK TT
Author:  trotskys twin [ Thu Dec 10, 2015 8:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Union Woes
So the Branch meeting took place and surprise surprise the Branch sec ran away from the meeting to prevent the NO CONFIDENCE motion being debated the meeting descended into chaos with 4 or 5 members shouting and the gormless Chair sitting there dumbfounded :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:

UBER Drivers are absolutely disgusted at the Branch secs ****** and it appears will leave the GMB and attempt to form their own Group, well done Branch sec another group of drivers repulsed by your ******* =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

The Branch sec and president refused to answer queries regarding ACCEPTING MONEY FROM ADDISON LEE for legal expenses against Uber which of course brings up the question now you have admitted meeting with Addison Lee WITHOUT THE INVOLVEMENT OF OR AUTHORISATION OF GMBPDB MEMBERS AT ADDISON LEE what else did you STITCH UP :?: :?: :?:

THE MEETING WAS INFORMED OF THE LEGAL CHALLENGES TO THE ALLEGEDLY STITCHED UP GENERAL SECRETARY ELECTION #-o #-o

THIS DESPICABLE SCENARIO IS BEYOND THE COMPREHENSION OF EXPERIENCED TRADE UNIONISTS

LOADS MORE TO COME ON THIS OUTRAGE :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:
Author:  Mercedes bullet [ Sun Dec 13, 2015 11:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Union Woes
A leake cleRly reporting to expelled member who can't even put facts out today just lies.
Author:  Sussex [ Sun Dec 13, 2015 3:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Union Woes
Mercedes bullet wrote:
A leake cleRly reporting to expelled member who can't even put facts out today just lies.

Well put him right, tell us the truth.
Author:  trotskys twin [ Mon Dec 14, 2015 3:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Union Woes
[quote="Mercedes bullet"]A leake cleRly reporting to expelled member who can't even put facts out today just lies.

REALLY WHAT LIES :?:

The Branch sec is a SCAB in my opinion AND HAS UTILISED THE BRANCH FOR HIS PROPRIETORS VIEWS :D

HOW MUCH MONEY DID HE TAKE FROM ADDY LEE AND FOR WHAT :?: :?:

HOW MANY UBER MEMBERS HAS THE BRANCH LOST DUE TO HIS CORRUPTION??


Merc bullet you got a problem with your key board or are YOU just illiterate #-o #-o
Author:  trotskys twin [ Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Union Woes
jUST GOT AN INTERESTING PHONE CALL HE THERE WILL SOON BE A SORT OUT AT THE GMBPDB =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

FEKK ORF SCAB :lol: :lol:
Author:  trotskys twin [ Tue Dec 15, 2015 8:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Union Woes
trotskys twin wrote:
Mercedes bullet wrote:
A leake cleRly reporting to expelled member who can't even put facts out today just lies.

REALLY WHAT LIES :?:

The Branch sec is a SCAB in my opinion AND HAS UTILISED THE BRANCH FOR HIS PROPRIETORS VIEWS :D

HOW MUCH MONEY DID HE TAKE FROM ADDY LEE AND FOR WHAT :?: :?:

HOW MANY UBER MEMBERS HAS THE BRANCH LOST DUE TO HIS CORRUPTION??


Merc bullet you got a problem with your key board or are YOU just illiterate #-o #-o


STRUCK DUMB FAT ASSOLE :badgrin: :badgrin: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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