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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 1:44 pm 
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Does anyone know if it is safe to use a dry powder fire extinguisher on a person who is on fire?

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 Post subject: Re: fire extinguishers
PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 2:37 pm 
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I don't know the answer but I'm hoping you are asking out of curiosity and not because of an ongoing situation :D

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 Post subject: Re: fire extinguishers
PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:02 pm 
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grandad wrote:
Does anyone know if it is safe to use a dry powder fire extinguisher on a person who is on fire?

https://www.firesafe.org.uk/types-use-a ... nguishers/

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 Post subject: Re: fire extinguishers
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Bart wrote:
I don't know the answer but I'm hoping you are asking out of curiosity and not because of an ongoing situation :D

No. We were within an inch of having the requirement to carry a fire extinguisher removed from our conditions the other night until on of the Councillors said that we should keep them to use on a person who is on fire.
I sent an email to our local fire authority and I have just received the following reply.
"We would always recommend the ‘stop, drop and roll’ method for a person on fire, with someone else attempting to smother the flames with a coat for example. If a water extinguisher was to hand, it could be used and would have a cooling effect, however if the person had used an accelerant such as petrol, a water extinguisher could make things worse.
We would not generally advise that you use a dry powder extinguisher on a person, as they can cause respiratory problems for the individual and dry powder would have no cooling effect."

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 Post subject: Re: fire extinguishers
PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 6:54 pm 
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grandad wrote:
Bart wrote:
I don't know the answer but I'm hoping you are asking out of curiosity and not because of an ongoing situation :D

No. We were within an inch of having the requirement to carry a fire extinguisher removed from our conditions the other night until on of the Councillors said that we should keep them to use on a person who is on fire.
I sent an email to our local fire authority and I have just received the following reply.
"We would always recommend the ‘stop, drop and roll’ method for a person on fire, with someone else attempting to smother the flames with a coat for example. If a water extinguisher was to hand, it could be used and would have a cooling effect, however if the person had used an accelerant such as petrol, a water extinguisher could make things worse.
We would not generally advise that you use a dry powder extinguisher on a person, as they can cause respiratory problems for the individual and dry powder would have no cooling effect."


I copied this from another Web Forum:

"Water; Is normally the best but, is not always available, by the time you get back it, it would be allot worst. Smother it by the simple stop drop and role method and if other material is around except for stuff life synthetics which are very flammable but like cottons and wools smother flames very well under these conditions.

Dry Powder; Not recommended

Co2; is quick and cold and should never be used around the face. Not to mention prolonged use can freeze the surface of the skin.

Foam; Is used for larger fires like buildings so it is not recommended

Radon Gas; Not recommended

The first best and fastest is stop drop and role, smother it."



Looks like a Fire Blankets best...


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 Post subject: Re: fire extinguishers
PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 7:08 pm 
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Had mine for 25 years, never used, out of date, but still get through the test with it, due to it stating one must be in the vehicle
Local fire chief said in case of fire get everyone out and call us don't use your extinguishers


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 7:26 pm 
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skippy41 wrote:
Had mine for 25 years, never used, out of date, but still get through the test with it, due to it stating one must be in the vehicle
Local fire chief said in case of fire get everyone out and call us don't use your extinguishers


Was there not some mention here on TDO ages back that if you use a fire extinguisher on your burning vehicle you could feck up any chance of an Insurance claim...best let it Burn.


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 Post subject: Re: fire extinguishers
PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 8:48 am 
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The best steps to take if your vehicle is on fire are bloody great big ones.

When I operated a Toyota Hybrid I asked the licencing officer what type of fire extinguisher to carry as I may be dealing with an electrical fire of some 600 volts and he didn't know.

Again, an enquiry to the fire brigade resulted in the same advice as mentioned above, be brave, run away. don't tackle it yourself.


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skippy41 wrote:
Had mine for 25 years, never used, out of date, but still get through the test with it, due to it stating one must be in the vehicle
Local fire chief said in case of fire get everyone out and call us don't use your extinguishers


this is what happened here, no need to carry one any more


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"Does anyone know if it is safe to use a dry powder fire extinguisher on a person who is on fire? HURRY UP WITH THE REPLIES FFS!!!"

Bart wrote:
I don't know the answer but I'm hoping you are asking out of curiosity and not because of an ongoing situation :D

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:02 pm 
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grandad wrote:
Bart wrote:
I don't know the answer but I'm hoping you are asking out of curiosity and not because of an ongoing situation :D

No. We were within an inch of having the requirement to carry a fire extinguisher removed from our conditions the other night until on of the Councillors said that we should keep them to use on a person who is on fire.
I sent an email to our local fire authority and I have just received the following reply.
"We would always recommend the ‘stop, drop and roll’ method for a person on fire, with someone else attempting to smother the flames with a coat for example. If a water extinguisher was to hand, it could be used and would have a cooling effect, however if the person had used an accelerant such as petrol, a water extinguisher could make things worse.
We would not generally advise that you use a dry powder extinguisher on a person, as they can cause respiratory problems for the individual and dry powder would have no cooling effect."


All you have to do now...is point out to them the legal position they have left themselves in..

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 Post subject: Re: fire extinguishers
PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 3:33 pm 
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MR T wrote:
grandad wrote:
Bart wrote:
I don't know the answer but I'm hoping you are asking out of curiosity and not because of an ongoing situation :D

No. We were within an inch of having the requirement to carry a fire extinguisher removed from our conditions the other night until on of the Councillors said that we should keep them to use on a person who is on fire.
I sent an email to our local fire authority and I have just received the following reply.
"We would always recommend the ‘stop, drop and roll’ method for a person on fire, with someone else attempting to smother the flames with a coat for example. If a water extinguisher was to hand, it could be used and would have a cooling effect, however if the person had used an accelerant such as petrol, a water extinguisher could make things worse.
We would not generally advise that you use a dry powder extinguisher on a person, as they can cause respiratory problems for the individual and dry powder would have no cooling effect."


All you have to do now...is point out to them the legal position they have left themselves in..

email already sent to regulatory services, the committee chair and the chief exec. :wink:

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