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A campaign led by medical professionals is calling for all diesel cars to be banned from London.
Doctors Against Diesel claim 9,400 Londoners a year die prematurely from breathing in toxic fumes from diesel engines.
Paris, Madrid, Mexico City and Athens have committed to a ban on diesel vehicles by 2025.
Opponents to the campaign have called the proposals "impractical" and warned a blanket ban could "backfire".

Doctors Against Diesel - comprising doctors, nurses and health professionals - are calling for Sadiq Khan, Mayor of London, to commit to phasing out diesel vehicles from London.
Mr Khan has already said he wants to get rid of diesel buses by 2018.
A spokesman for the mayor said he has no legal powers to ban cars in London and is calling on the government "to face its responsibility and implement a national diesel scrappage scheme now".
"The mayor has more than doubled air quality funding and is doing everything in his power to tackle London's toxic air and rid the city of the most polluting vehicles, but he cannot do this alone" the spokesman added.

personally i think more can be done on the engineering front to get diesels to burn the fuel better and the fuel companies could produce a much better and cleaner burning fuel but I suspect we are all going to have to drive LPG or electric cars soon :sad:

Figures plucked from the Sky.....I'm sure many more Die of Alcohol related issues or through obesity...are they going to ban Booze and ration food portions?

Utter Crap..

edders23 wrote:

Figures plucked from the Sky.....I'm sure many more Die of Alcohol related issues or through obesity...are they going to ban Booze and ration food portions?

Utter Crap..

i DRIVE DIESEL WAS TOLD ITS CLEANER #-o

now its police #-o

remember in london when i was a kid loads of buses's were electric trolley buses;s reckon their on the way back and Diesel will be gone in llndon within 15 years but then so will I :badgrin:

bloodnock wrote:

edders23 wrote:

Figures plucked from the Sky.....I'm sure many more Die of Alcohol related issues or through obesity...are they going to ban Booze and ration food portions?

Utter Crap..

hmm... bit of a silly analogy that mind, you have a choice what you drink/eat, you don't have a choice what you inhale while walking around the streets :lol:

and yet.....imagine the carnage if everyone bought a Tesla...

the fuel sales would end......forecourts would close, 1000's would be out of work and HMG would lose billions in fuel duty and VAT

electric motors are far simpler to produce than a petrol/diesel engine, they dont need a casting so no foundry, theres 1000's out of work in the foundry and engine assembly plants

the car industry is not geared up for mass sales of electric vehicles but it could gear up to alternatives such as LPG or LNG with the right investment in developing engines for these fuels instead of adapting engines designed to run on petrol or diesel to other fuels

Basically its a ploy by the governments, into forcing drivers back to petrol, due to the massive losses in revenues, mainly due to diesel vehicles especially cars, being able to get a third or more MPG from every gallon

Author:	edders23 [ Sat Dec 10, 2016 4:58 pm ]
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A campaign led by medical professionals is calling for all diesel cars to be banned from London. Doctors Against Diesel claim 9,400 Londoners a year die prematurely from breathing in toxic fumes from diesel engines. Paris, Madrid, Mexico City and Athens have committed to a ban on diesel vehicles by 2025. Opponents to the campaign have called the proposals "impractical" and warned a blanket ban could "backfire". Doctors Against Diesel - comprising doctors, nurses and health professionals - are calling for Sadiq Khan, Mayor of London, to commit to phasing out diesel vehicles from London. Mr Khan has already said he wants to get rid of diesel buses by 2018. A spokesman for the mayor said he has no legal powers to ban cars in London and is calling on the government "to face its responsibility and implement a national diesel scrappage scheme now". "The mayor has more than doubled air quality funding and is doing everything in his power to tackle London's toxic air and rid the city of the most polluting vehicles, but he cannot do this alone" the spokesman added. personally i think more can be done on the engineering front to get diesels to burn the fuel better and the fuel companies could produce a much better and cleaner burning fuel but I suspect we are all going to have to drive LPG or electric cars soon

Author:	bloodnock [ Sat Dec 10, 2016 7:44 pm ]
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edders23 wrote: A campaign led by medical professionals is calling for all diesel cars to be banned from London. Doctors Against Diesel claim 9,400 Londoners a year die prematurely from breathing in toxic fumes from diesel engines. Paris, Madrid, Mexico City and Athens have committed to a ban on diesel vehicles by 2025. Opponents to the campaign have called the proposals "impractical" and warned a blanket ban could "backfire". Doctors Against Diesel - comprising doctors, nurses and health professionals - are calling for Sadiq Khan, Mayor of London, to commit to phasing out diesel vehicles from London. Mr Khan has already said he wants to get rid of diesel buses by 2018. A spokesman for the mayor said he has no legal powers to ban cars in London and is calling on the government "to face its responsibility and implement a national diesel scrappage scheme now". "The mayor has more than doubled air quality funding and is doing everything in his power to tackle London's toxic air and rid the city of the most polluting vehicles, but he cannot do this alone" the spokesman added. personally i think more can be done on the engineering front to get diesels to burn the fuel better and the fuel companies could produce a much better and cleaner burning fuel but I suspect we are all going to have to drive LPG or electric cars soon Figures plucked from the Sky.....I'm sure many more Die of Alcohol related issues or through obesity...are they going to ban Booze and ration food portions? Utter Crap..

Author:	wannabeeahack [ Sat Dec 10, 2016 10:13 pm ]
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Not just 1 bunch of loonies....lots Four of the world’s biggest cities are to ban diesel vehicles from their centres within the next decade, as a means of tackling air pollution, with campaigners urging other city leaders to follow suit. The mayors of Paris, Madrid, Athens and Mexico City announced plans on Friday to take diesel cars and vans off their roads by 2025. https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... ir-centres

Author:	Nidge2 [ Sat Dec 10, 2016 11:53 pm ]
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bloodnock wrote: Figures plucked from the Sky.....I'm sure many more Die of Alcohol related issues or through obesity...are they going to ban Booze and ration food portions? Utter Crap.. This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ It'll be them nasty tree huggers again, the same people that are against fracking. It won't have anything to do with the amount of traffic that's on the roads will it?

Author:	ven2112 [ Sun Dec 11, 2016 2:27 pm ]
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bloodnock wrote: edders23 wrote: A campaign led by medical professionals is calling for all diesel cars to be banned from London. Doctors Against Diesel claim 9,400 Londoners a year die prematurely from breathing in toxic fumes from diesel engines. Paris, Madrid, Mexico City and Athens have committed to a ban on diesel vehicles by 2025. Opponents to the campaign have called the proposals "impractical" and warned a blanket ban could "backfire". Doctors Against Diesel - comprising doctors, nurses and health professionals - are calling for Sadiq Khan, Mayor of London, to commit to phasing out diesel vehicles from London. Mr Khan has already said he wants to get rid of diesel buses by 2018. A spokesman for the mayor said he has no legal powers to ban cars in London and is calling on the government "to face its responsibility and implement a national diesel scrappage scheme now". "The mayor has more than doubled air quality funding and is doing everything in his power to tackle London's toxic air and rid the city of the most polluting vehicles, but he cannot do this alone" the spokesman added. personally i think more can be done on the engineering front to get diesels to burn the fuel better and the fuel companies could produce a much better and cleaner burning fuel but I suspect we are all going to have to drive LPG or electric cars soon Figures plucked from the Sky.....I'm sure many more Die of Alcohol related issues or through obesity...are they going to ban Booze and ration food portions? Utter Crap.. hmm... bit of a silly analogy that mind, you have a choice what you drink/eat, you don't have a choice what you inhale while walking around the streets

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Author:	trotskys twin [ Mon Dec 12, 2016 6:08 pm ]
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i DRIVE DIESEL WAS TOLD ITS CLEANER now its police remember in london when i was a kid loads of buses's were electric trolley buses;s reckon their on the way back and Diesel will be gone in llndon within 15 years but then so will I

Author:	edders23 [ Mon Dec 12, 2016 9:40 pm ]
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trotskys twin wrote: i DRIVE DIESEL WAS TOLD ITS CLEANER now its police remember in london when i was a kid loads of buses's were electric trolley buses;s reckon their on the way back and Diesel will be gone in llndon within 15 years but then so will I nah I reckon all your organs are nicely pickled they'll last for ages

Author:	bloodnock [ Mon Dec 12, 2016 10:49 pm ]
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ven2112 wrote: bloodnock wrote: edders23 wrote: A campaign led by medical professionals is calling for all diesel cars to be banned from London. Doctors Against Diesel claim 9,400 Londoners a year die prematurely from breathing in toxic fumes from diesel engines. Paris, Madrid, Mexico City and Athens have committed to a ban on diesel vehicles by 2025. Opponents to the campaign have called the proposals "impractical" and warned a blanket ban could "backfire". Doctors Against Diesel - comprising doctors, nurses and health professionals - are calling for Sadiq Khan, Mayor of London, to commit to phasing out diesel vehicles from London. Mr Khan has already said he wants to get rid of diesel buses by 2018. A spokesman for the mayor said he has no legal powers to ban cars in London and is calling on the government "to face its responsibility and implement a national diesel scrappage scheme now". "The mayor has more than doubled air quality funding and is doing everything in his power to tackle London's toxic air and rid the city of the most polluting vehicles, but he cannot do this alone" the spokesman added. personally i think more can be done on the engineering front to get diesels to burn the fuel better and the fuel companies could produce a much better and cleaner burning fuel but I suspect we are all going to have to drive LPG or electric cars soon Figures plucked from the Sky.....I'm sure many more Die of Alcohol related issues or through obesity...are they going to ban Booze and ration food portions? Utter Crap.. hmm... bit of a silly analogy that mind, you have a choice what you drink/eat, you don't have a choice what you inhale while walking around the streets Well then..Dont walk around the streets, get in a nice Taxi or PH with a Particle filter..you know it makes sense.

Author:	wannabeeahack [ Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:28 am ]
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and yet.....imagine the carnage if everyone bought a Tesla... the fuel sales would end......forecourts would close, 1000's would be out of work and HMG would lose billions in fuel duty and VAT electric motors are far simpler to produce than a petrol/diesel engine, they dont need a casting so no foundry, theres 1000's out of work in the foundry and engine assembly plants

Author:	edders23 [ Tue Dec 13, 2016 4:59 pm ]
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wannabeeahack wrote: and yet.....imagine the carnage if everyone bought a Tesla... the fuel sales would end......forecourts would close, 1000's would be out of work and HMG would lose billions in fuel duty and VAT electric motors are far simpler to produce than a petrol/diesel engine, they dont need a casting so no foundry, theres 1000's out of work in the foundry and engine assembly plants the car industry is not geared up for mass sales of electric vehicles but it could gear up to alternatives such as LPG or LNG with the right investment in developing engines for these fuels instead of adapting engines designed to run on petrol or diesel to other fuels

Author:	sasha [ Tue Dec 13, 2016 5:49 pm ]
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edders23 wrote: the car industry is not geared up for mass sales of electric vehicles but it could gear up to alternatives such as LPG or LNG with the right investment in developing engines for these fuels instead of adapting engines designed to run on petrol or diesel to other fuels The biggest global selling car this year is the Toyota Corolla (called the Auris here) with 940,000 sold. Don't know how many of those were hybrids but the local dealer says the Auris hybrid is their biggest seller. If the problems with charging times and battery range were better I've no doubt that an all electric vehicle would be the worlds best seller.

Author:	skippy41 [ Tue Dec 13, 2016 6:12 pm ]
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Basically its a ploy by the governments, into forcing drivers back to petrol, due to the massive losses in revenues, mainly due to diesel vehicles especially cars, being able to get a third or more MPG from every gallon

Author:	edders23 [ Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:17 pm ]
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skippy41 wrote: Basically its a ploy by the governments, into forcing drivers back to petrol, due to the massive losses in revenues, mainly due to diesel vehicles especially cars, being able to get a third or more MPG from every gallon I've heard some conspiracy theories in my time BUT

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