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 Post subject: Roof signs
PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:31 pm 
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Does any other local council apart from Barrow in Furness allow rooflights on private hire vehicles? This has been allowed here for a good few years but the licensing officer tried to change the conditions at the licensing subcommittee today but was knocked back.
We from the local trade supported the ban but the councilors against all legal advice didn't allow the change. Any suggestions about an appeal or complaint to the ombudsman? What's the procedure has anyone got any sensible advice?


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 Post subject: Re: Roof signs
PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:45 pm 
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Plenty that do allow PH roofsigns, but obviously not allowed to use the word taxi etc.

So does this mean the white colour code for HCs is back on?

When this was reported in the press earlier in the summer it read like it was fairly cut and dried - no colour code, and roofsigns off PH:

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 Post subject: Re: Roof signs
PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:58 pm 
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This has put the whole thing back to where we started. Can you tell me which council allows roof signs on private hire?


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 Post subject: Re: Roof signs
PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:16 pm 
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Can't name them all, unfortunately :oops:

Here's a few examples though. Suspect other readers can name lots of examples.

These seem to be licensed by Sandwell MBC:

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https://www.xlacars.co.uk/

Brighton:

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Gloucester:

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http://www.northstarhire.co.uk/index.html


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 Post subject: Re: Roof signs
PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:24 pm 
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If you look at Lettercraft's website - who I suspect are largest supplier of rooflights in UK - they have examples of signs obviously tailored for use by PHVs:

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http://www.lettercrafttopsignsuk.co.uk/ ... taxi-signs


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 Post subject: Re: Roof signs
PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:24 pm 
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Wonder how many of these have a colour code for hackneys though. Reading the miscellaneous provisions act it seems to say that a private hire vehicle should not have anything that may lead the public to think that it's a Hackney carriage.


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 Post subject: Re: Roof signs
PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:34 pm 
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taxitales wrote:
Wonder how many of these have a colour code for hackneys though. Reading the miscellaneous provisions act it seems to say that a private hire vehicle should not have anything that may lead the public to think that it's a Hackney carriage.


Good point about the colour code, but doubt if there's any hard and fast ruling which says you need a colour code before allowing PH roofsigns.

Sus-pect* a certain forum member may know the ins and outs of it all though, and may be better able to advise.

*See what I did there? :badgrin:


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 Post subject: Re: Roof signs
PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:39 pm 
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Great let's hope he has some good news for us.


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 Post subject: Re: Roof signs
PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2018 9:47 pm 
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taxitales wrote:
Great let's hope he has some good news for us.


Hate to be the bearer of bad news. but suspect he won't be arguing against the idea of PH roofsigns 8-[


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 Post subject: Re: Roof signs
PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:42 am 
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Peterborough do but SKDC don't and in Peterborough some have the word taxi as part of the name but most have Cars or carz

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 Post subject: Re: Roof signs
PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:50 am 
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West Bromwich do require them on PH, seems madness to me, id have thought "Private" would preclude ANY signage... like mine does on a special ecents PH plate, no door signs, no rooflight and a very small rear plate

Wychavon have a "no plate plate"....................

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 Post subject: Re: Roof signs
PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2018 10:37 pm 
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Weatherfield MBC :badgrin:

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 Post subject: Re: Roof signs
PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:10 pm 
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taxitales wrote:
Does any other local council apart from Barrow in Furness allow rooflights on private hire vehicles?

In Sussex, B&H, Adur, Worthing, Mid Sussex, Arun, Horsham, Wealden, Hastings and Rother allow rooflights on PH.

At least two of the above were allowed by the courts following legal challenges.

If your LO is concerned about PH roof lights leading to illegal pick ups then I suggest he gets out there and convicts a few.

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 Post subject: Re: Roof signs
PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:24 pm 
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StuartW wrote:
Weatherfield MBC :badgrin:

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I think we should call on the new Greater manchester enforcement team to prosecute this driver for inadequate insurance and plying for hire :lol:

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