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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:22 pm 
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Another offering from Fastblacks, this time from Mr Disillusioned:
My text is in black, while his reply is in blue - isn't it funny how the him and Mr Fastblacks both reply using coloured text for quotes rather than the quote function that the software uses? Surely this isn't a case of great minds thinking alike? :lol:

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Well to be honest this is the biggest laugh I've ever had on the internet as well, and that's no joke

You obviously don't get out much, nor know how to get about on the net if this is the biggest laugh you've had.

I couldn't believe that Mr Admin tried to explain the situation by posting umpteen readily available links from TDO - probably the most I've ever laughed on my own at something on the internet - and I'm not exaggerating, sadly.

If you understood the way the net works you might stand a chance but you quite obviously don't.

But while these links are readily available and copying and pasting them is just a waste of time, explaining how he came across the non-public link to the confidential document is what he can't explain, and neither can you.

So if your expert didn't come up with an explanation as to how Mr Admin managed to access a document without a publicly available URL then you might as well have asked the local kindergarten.

I notice you've now changed your tune on the fact that it was left in a public area - public area with free and unrestricted access.

So, for the umpteenth time, how was a document found where the URL was private?

The URL didn't come into it, it could be found from a directory listing.

And if did your 'expert' explain to you how someone could have found the document I left 'out' the other night but which no one seemed able to find - funny that!

Maybe nobody was looking. Maybe Mr Admin didn't want to play your games. The way the trade is in Edinburgh we all have to work a whole lot longer at the moment.

And did you ask your 'expert' friend what proof there is that I'm a liar?

Didn't mention liar - but many other T&T style names were used.

I also note that no proof at all has been given that Mr Admin actually accessed anyone's PM's and how he did that! Convenient forgotten I think.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:45 pm 
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You obviously don't get out much, nor know how to get about on the net if this is the biggest laugh you've had.


I said biggest laugh on THE NET, so your comment about not getting out much does not make sense.

And I know my way about then net enough to know that you and Mr Fastblack's ramblings are a big laugh :lol:

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If you understood the way the net works you might stand a chance but you quite obviously don't.


As I said, I know enough, but what can be said is that I think Mr Fastblacks knows a bit more now than he did when he peeked into the private messages.

But I made sure I asked him repeatedly how he found the document to give him a chance to prove his case, but of course he just ignored this for a week and indeed STILL hasn't said how exactly he found the document.

Posting a list of URLs that anyone doesn't say HOW he found them or HOW he found the document, and we all know the reason for his reticence :wink:

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I notice you've now changed your tune on the fact that it was left in a public area - public area with free and unrestricted access.


No, I haven't changed my tune. The reason you either can't or won't understand the point is that the URL was required to access the document.

That's why the Canonmills analogy was nonsense, because it wasn't just a case of anyone being able to find the document.

Before Mr Fastblacks had even proferred any explanation at all I offered an analogy of a car boot left open for a very short time and this being communicated by letter and the letter being opened by a Royal Mail employee - a reasonable assumption is that the letter woudn't be opened.

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The URL didn't come into it, it could be found from a directory listing.


But neither you nor Mr Fastblacks said that at the time or disclosed how you found it, and the document I left 'out' for you wasn't found either.

So what's clear is that if you or Mr Fastblacks know a bit more now then you didn't at the time, as I demonstrated by asking him. And that's why he's still being a bit cagey about how he found it or the later URLs.

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Maybe nobody was looking. Maybe Mr Admin didn't want to play your games. The way the trade is in Edinburgh we all have to work a whole lot longer at the moment.


It wasn't a game - it was put there to prove a point, and if Mr Admin had been capable of disproving the point then he would have done so.

And Mr Admin and others posted on the forum after I'd placed the document but before I'd provided the URL, so your second excuse doesn't hold water.

If it was that easy to find then with the dozens of people viewing Fastblacks surely someone would have piped up?

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I also note that no proof at all has been given that Mr Admin actually accessed anyone's PM's and how he did that! Convenient forgotten I think.


Well there's certainly more proof of that than that I'm a liar :D

Let's see: his failure to say how he found the document despite repeated invitations, his statement that it had been sent to the Sheriff Principal and his statement that the document had been authored by JD, despite there being no evidence on the document to suggest either.

And even if Mr Fastblacks had been capable of finding the document at the time (by hacking, say), then it seems incredible that he just happened to be doing so during the handful of hours that the document was on the domain.

So surely the evidence points to Mr Fastblacks ferreting about in the private messages?

And still no proof that I'm a liar? :sad:

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You still going on about this Dusty, I will post this on Fastblacks as well in the interests of fairness.


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No, I thought it was dead and buried last week until Mr Disillusioned exhumed it :roll: ](*,)

And the reason I didn't post it on Fastblacks was IN THE INTERESTS OF FAIRNESS, as I've already explained.

And I did say on Fastblacks that I've replied to the post on here, so anyone that wants to find it can do so in any case.

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Well Dusty I hope we dont have to start asking for people to cut and paste from one forum to the other :lol:


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Good point, but if Mr Fastblacks hives my replies off to another thread that only admin can post on, then there's little choice :-#

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